I am about 1.5 hrs north of San diego and 1.5 hrs south of Los Angeles in the Inland Empire, it starts getting cold here at night about mid September to mid October. I bring almost all of my hoyas inside from the time the night temps drop below 55 degrees and keep them inside until April or May when they are back up to around 55. I was in Europe this past September and had my sister staying over to take care of my dogs and plants and I didn't think it would be a big deal to wait to bring them inside until I got back because temps were about 60 degrees when I left, they abruptly dropped to just below 50 while I was gone so they were in shock when I returned, I lost my Aldrichii and cv. Joy. My sister has hoyas too so I am sure it was the temp drop that shocked them and not the way she watered them. I am surprised you have been able to leave so many of yours out through the entire winter without mass casualties! This winter it was close to freezing for several weeks, and was even under 20 degrees a few nights here. I left my Carnosa outside through the winter because its way too big to bring inside and it seemed to do fine. My Variegated Kerrii was subjected to those super cold temps inside my house and tons of leaves froze, then turned black or started to yellow, and dropped off :( It was too big to bring into the kitchen where I keep the rest of them during the winter, so I left it in the back bedroom next to a window and I guess it must have even gotten too cold in there for it... It has bounced back, but I'm assuming that's because of its size, if it was a small plant, I surely would have lost it. Any new leaves that have grown since the freeze are solid green, not sure if that is from the shock of the cold or what but I'm not too worried about it, I know the whole plant can revert to solid green because of this but I'm ok with that, I'm just glad it survived because it was in bad shape. My hoyas that were in shock in the low 50's & high 40's: Latifolia - this one is pretty sensitive so I won't be putting it back outside unless temps are consistently above 60. Balansae Meliflua ssp. Fraterna Cv. Joy - eventually lost Diversifolia ssp. El nidicus - almost lost this one too Balaensis Pentaphlebia Naumannii Aldrichii - eventually lost The ones that were ok in the low 50's/high 40's but I brought them inside anyway (and they seemed grateful to be indoors): Australis(not sure which ssp., purchased at local nursery & it was not labeled) Davidcummingii Obovata Pubicalyx - did drop a few leaves but was still ok Heuschkeliana Compacta Kerrii Plicata I am slowly bringing them all back outside now :) Hopefully that gives you a good bit of insight from another Southern California Hoya lover. I have also developed my own little system I would like to share that helps me be sure not to over or under water my hoyas regardless of the season, my trick is checking the mature leaves first before checking the soil, if they are stiff I know they are not ready to take water yet. If the mature leaves are soft, I then check the soil, and if it is dry, I can be sure they need water. If the leaves are soft and the soil is moist I check the leaves the next day and most of the time they are stiff by then and just needed a bit more time to soak up the water from the soil. Basically, I rely on the stiffness of the leaves to tell me if the plant is ready to be watered and I have not had over or under watering problems since I started doing it this way :) My only hoyas large enough to take cuttings from are my Carnosa and Kerri, which are obviously pretty common, maybe we can do some trades next season once my other ones are large enough to take cuts from :)

Hi Erika...LOL...you did get a bunch!! We all had a great time... You are lucky to find Jean Moragne!!! The pic that i tool of the stand didnt make it!!! I could't believe it!!! LOL... Did you put them in the trunk..and then bring them in in samll groups? LOL... Imm sure your DH will understand...lol I picked up a cutting at that stand..do you remember UH? I left a message for Mona L and i havent heard back from her...ill leave another message tomorrow...I thought in the heat of our frenzy..lol.i knew what i was picking up...guess i picked up something that i didnt write down...My hands were in motion that day...lol Ill email you and let you know what i find out.. So nice to meet you Erika!! Jen...You would have a great time... I did bring home some great cuttings... I picked up..Cindy Morangne, Kimi Morangne, Jeannie Moragne,J L Starfish, Vera Cruz Rose, Charlote Ebert, Candy Stripe, Hidden in my suitcase..from DH..lol Hawaiian Flag and a few others... Take care Everyone.. Laura in VB

Figs are my favorite for zone 9. Where I live (near the beach in Los Angeles), it pretty much never gets below 40°, and so I can easily grow mango, but I would not try it in zone 9. I also have white sapote and cherimoya, which I think might be possible for zone 9, and dragon fruit, which of course is not a tree. The white sapote makes lots of fruit, but it has to ripen on the tree and be used right away. The cherimoya has to be hand pollinated, and that is a pain but worth the effort. The fruit is somewhat similar to soursop but sweeter. The figs I grew at my previous house were supposedly a Texas Red, which I got from a greenhouse in Texas, and they were incredibly sweet. I do not have room for them at my current house. I have an avocado tree that gets pollinated from another tree in my neighborhood, and so it is not always necessary to have two trees, if your neighbors have trees.

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