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Favorite HT/Grandiflora?

dublinbay z6 (KS)

10 years ago

I'm curious. Some years ago we took a rather long survey of everyone's favorite roses. The top winner was Double Delight. I'm wondering if that is still true.

Let's all list our top THREE favorite hybrid teas (or grandifloras) and briefly indicate WHY--such as beauty, disease-resistance, fragrance, or good re-bloom.

Here's my three, to begin this.

Double Delight--beauty, fragrance. I remember saying several years ago that I couldn't imagine a collection of hybrid teas that did NOT include Double Delight. I think I still feel that way.
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Red Intuition--unusual striped appearance, good re-bloom, bs-resistance
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The third one is hard to choose--either Elina or Peter Mayle. They are both in the same border and both wonderful roses--Elina is pastel, very bloomiferous, and bs-resistant; Peter Mayle puts out the largest big fat full blooms in hot pink, a real-show stopper, but not quite as bs-resistant as Elina nor as good a re-bloomer. I guess if I have to, I'll go with Elina as my third choice, but I feel bad about not including Peter in the list. : (
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Whew--that was a little harder than I expected.

OK--let's hear it for your favorite top-three hts/grandifloras.

Kate

Edit: Photos added--to keep up with the other posters!

This post was edited by dublinbay on Fri, Dec 6, 13 at 7:11

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dublinbay z6 (KS)
Original Author
10 years ago
I'm falling for those pics of Garden Party also!

And I'm glad a couple other of my favorites (like Chicago Peace and Gold Medal) were mentioned also.

Kate
Tessiess, SoCal Inland, 9b, 1272' elev
10 years ago
Oklahoma
King's Ransom
Grace de Monaco

All three are strongly fragrant. Oklahoma and King's Ransom were favorites in my mother's garden when I was growing up. I have many fond memories of them. Of the two I only have Oklahoma (that dark red is irresistible!!!) but may add King's Ransom in the future. It's such a beautiful clear yellow. I have an offspring, the climber Roberta Bondar which shares the same lovely color on a much bigger plant.

Grace de Monaco is a new one to me. I was at Eurodesert Roses in 2011 during its closing period out among the plants with the owner Cliff Orent, looking for a specific rose, and I came upon this gorgeous very large bush (of a beautiful growth habit--not at all a bare knees ht type, but rather a luxuriant, full garden plant) with shimmering pink flowers. They were intensely fragrant and looked like water lilies. I asked Cliff what it was, and he said Grace de Monaco. I always regretted not buying it on the spot, but I found the only way to shop there was to discipline myself and buy what was on that day's shopping list. Couldn't forget the rose however. So while Vintage was winding down I got an email notice that they had Grace de Monaco in stock. I snapped her up instantly. She arrived as a band last year. Apparently Vintage was the last source on this continent.

Honorable mention to:

Bewitched, another I have fond memories of from my mother's garden. I remember the wonderful scent, and I loved that particular shade of pink. Don't currently grow her, but would like to........

Chrysler Imperial. Another goody from the past. I used to grow the climbing version, but I lost the two of them in a fire at my barn back in 2003. The climber was often available locally but not anymore. Now it is hard to find. I have the bush version in a pot, but it is a sad and unhappy badly-virused rose that I will never plant in the garden because of its ill health. Flowers are fragrant as ever but not as frequent or numerous as a healthy version is capable of producing. I know it is available virus-indexed, so I'll have to get myself organized, toss the sickie, and order a clean plant.

Climbing Crimson Glory. I've grown it in a sheltered location in a huge pot for many years, and it is enormous. Blooms like a maniac for most of the year, with very little care (since I forget to navigate around other plants to feed or water it). But whenever I do notice this rose it is blooming. Even today.;) Big red bundles of fragrance!

Melissa

Here is a link that might be useful: Grace de Monaco
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ARS HT / Grandiflora 2010 Rose Show Results By Ronald Schwerdt December 2010 Affirm, ---, mp, 1998, 7.5 (8.0), ------, Q-1, K-2, P-1, C-5 American Honor---, mp, 1993, 7.0 (7.2), ----------------,Q-1 Andrea Stelzer----lp, 1992, 7.5 (7.8), ----------, P-2, C-2 Anne Morrow Lindbergh, -------pb, 1993, 7, P-1 Aperitif,---my, 1998, 7.5 (7.2), ---------------------, K-1 Artic Circle,---, w, 2008, -----------------------, Q-1, P-5 Asso Di Cuori ,---, dr, 1998, 8.0, --------------------, C-3 Awareness ,---, dp, 1997, 7.4 (7.2, ), ----------------, C-1 Barbara Bush, ---, pb, 1990, 7.5 (7.2), ---------------, P-1 Belle Rouge, ---, dr, 1999, 7.5 (6.9), ----------------, C-1 Bewitched, ---, mp, 1967, 7.7, --------------------------, C-1 Big Red, ---, mr, 2007, 7.8 (8.0), ------------, Q-1, K-1 ,C-2 Big Time, ---, dp, 2001, 7.6 (7.9), -----------------------, C-2 Black Magic, ---, dr, 1997, 7.7 (7.7), - Q-8, K-2, P-4, C-21 Blake Hedrick, ---, mr, 2004, 7.4 (7.4), ----, Q-1, P-2, C-2 Bles Bridges, ---, dr, 1996, 7.2 (7.3), -------------------, C-1 Brandenburg Gate, mp, 1991, 7.4 (.8) ----------, Q-2, C-1 Brandy, ---, ab, 1981, 7.4 ((7.1), -------------------------, K-1 Bride's Dream, ---, lp, 1985, 8.1, ------------, K-1, P-2, C, 2 Brigadoon, ---, pb, 1991, 7.8 (6.9), ----,Q-2, K-2, P-2, C-2 Brooks Red, ---, mr, 2000, 7.5 (7.9), --------, K-1, P-1, C-4 Cajun Moon, ---, w, 2001, 7.9 (8.2)--,Q-6, K-5, P-2-, C-11 Cajun Signature, --, w, 2004, 7.5 (7.8), --------, Q-1, C-1 Cajun Sunrise, ---pb, 2001, 7.7 (8.0), -Q-2, K-2, P-2, C-11 Camara, ---, or, 1978, 7.8 (0.0), -------------------------, Q-1 Captain Harry Stebbins,---, dp, 1980, 7.8, -----------, K-1 Catherine Marie, ---, mp, 1991, 7.5 (7.4), ------------, C-2 Cesar E. Chavez, ---, dr, 2002, 7.4 (7.4), ---------------, C-3 Cherry Parfait, ---, rb, 2001, 7.8 (7.4),------------, P-1, C-1 Chicago Peace,---, pb, 1962, 7.7 ------------------, Q-1, C-2 Christian Dior, ---, mp, 1961, 7.2,-----------------------, K-1 Classic Touch,---, lp, 1991, 7.5 (7.9),--------------------, P-1 Clich�, ---, pb, 2001, 6.8 (7.0), ---------------------------, C-1 Color Magic, ---, pb, 1978, 7.9 (7.0), -------------------, C-2 Coral Fiesta, ---, or, 1983, 7.5, ---------------------, K-1, C-1 Crowd Pleaser, ---, dp, 2000, 7.5 (7.6), ----, Q-1, K-3, C-1 Crystalline, ---, w, 1987, 8.0 (8.1), ----, Q-2, K-1, P-4, C-5 Dawing Moment,---, ab, 2007, --------------------------, C-1 Deidre Hall, ---, yb, 2006, 7.4 (7.6), --, Q-1, -K-1, P-2, C-1 Desperado, ---, rb, 2007, 7.6 (7.9), ---------, K-4, P-1 , C-6 Diana, Princess Of Wales,--,pb, 1998, 7.5 (7.5), P-1, C-2 Dick Clark, ---, rb, 2010, ------------------------------------, C-1 Distant Sounds, ---, pb, 1996, (7.3 (7.4), 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1993, 7.5 (7.7),--- Q-3, K-3, K-2, C-3 Madame Violet, ---, m, 1981, 7.0,-----------------------, C-1 Marijke Koopman, ---, mp, 1980, ------------------, P-1, C-1 Marilyn Monroe, --, 2002, 7.9 (8.1), - Q-7, K-2, P-8, C-12 Marilyn Wellan, ---mr, 2005, 7.7 (7.9), Q-1, K-1, p-4, C-8 Marlon's Day, --, w, 2005, 7.7 (7.8)--,Q-4, K-1, P-3, C-10 Mavrik,---, pb, 2000, 7.6 (8.0), ---------, Q-2, K-6, P-2, C-6 Medallion, ---, ab, 1973, 7.1,-----------------------------, C-2 Memorial Day, ---, mp, 2004, 7.5 (6.7), ---------------, Q-1 Michelangelo, ---, my, 1997, 7.6 (7.1),----------------, P-1 Milestone, ---, rb, 1983, 8.0 (7.3),-----------------------, K-1 Miss All-American Beauty, ---, dp, 1965, 7.7,---------, C-1 Miss Elvis, ---, ob, 2000, 7.5 (7.4), -----------------, K-1, C-1 Miss Kitty, ---, w, 2007, ------------------------------------, Q-1 Mister Lincoln, ---, dp, 8.2 (7.6),-------------------, P-1, C-2 Moonstone, ---, 1998, 8.2 (8.4), -,Q-13, K-18, P-10, C-23 Mu Lan, ---, pb, 2004, 7.4 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Hello Nancy, Minifloras may be just what you are looking for. They are generally under 3 feet tall (mostly about 2 feet), have hybrid tea type, exhibition form flowers, usually around 3 inch blooms. The colors they come in are amazing. Unfortunately, fragrance is scarce. They bloom very heavily, often one to a long stem, and are superb vase roses. The petals are generally heavy textured, almost like the old time plastic artificial flowers, which may be an asset in your Florida heat. Disease, particularly BS, can be present, but most exhibition type hybrid tea roses fall into this category, too. You can try Neen to control BS, and spider mites, too, if you go organic. Getting minifloras on fortuniana rootstock may present problems. I'll bet rose exhibitors in your area can help. I have grown Deja Blu, a popular miniflora, for two years now and am pleased with it, could use a few more petals, though. It is fragrant...I rate its fragrance a 7.5, not powerful but not mild either. Dr. John Dickman, Flawless, and Miss Mabel (fragrant), are popular varieties and are on my 'futures' list, particularly Miss Mabel. There is a 'cult' of rose exhibitors who specialize in minifloras, much like the past hybrid tea groupies and the exhibition miniature rose guys. Remember the popularity of the mini, Jean Kenneally, those of us who have been around a while? Of course you can grow minifloras as a home gardener as well. You don't have to be an exhibitor, obviously. You may want to take a look at the web site -forloveofroses.com- and see the miniflora offerings there. I believe this class, miniflora has a good future, especially if disease resistance improves. Home gardeners do not want to spray, even organically. The small bush size and exquisite flower form are strong selling points. Disease issues are not. Are you as tired of the character-less Knockout type so-so flowers as I am? I guess I want it all in one rose! Hope I hit the target with my suggestions!
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Only three, huh? Fortunately some of my favorites are already posted or that would be even tougher. Red Intuition is to die for in complexity of color, and if the Stranger that Beth posted ever becomes commercially available I'll beat a path to the door of the vendor -that is just drop dead gorgeous.

For my picks, at least one of them has to be a striped one, and I've been fascinated to watch the brilliance and variability of color in Andre Willemse.

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I'm a total sucker for deep dark maroon blooms that touch something deep in my heart, so my second vote goes to the deepest darkest maroon of Nigrette. I find these blooms hauntingly lovely, enough that I'll put up with the scrawny runt of a greedy little pig of a bush that produced them.

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For honorable mention, it's a tie between Dream Come True and Love & Peace, both of which I love for their stiff-petaled garish high contrast in your face wow color and form that's the very reason some people hate them. I won't post pictures since that would be cheating...

Cynthia
Smoky88
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1.Papa Melland
2.Firefighter
3.Memorial Day
4.Sweet Intoxication- this rose is at my backyard but the scent is so strong that I can even smell it from the front door of my house.
Also I would like to add Neptune & Double Delight
Here is a pic of DD I took in the evening.

This post was edited by Smoky88 on Wed, Dec 4, 13 at 2:57
prickles
10 years ago
1. Magnificent Perfume
2. Memorial Day
3. Yves Piaget
nanadollZ7 SWIdaho
10 years ago
Nippstress, I've wanted Savoy Hotel for years, but had some reservations about it. Now your gorgeous photo and enthusiastic
endorsement of SH have convinced me I must find room this wonderful rose. I love the dark smoldering tones of Nigrette which show so well in your excellent photo. You might enjoy checking out the old thread I brought up on the rose gallery forum, showing members' photos of their darkest red roses. There are some stunners. Diane
Smoky88
10 years ago
Neptune
Smoky88
10 years ago
Sweet Intoxication
Smoky88
10 years ago
Memorial Day & Blue Moon in Vase
pembroke
10 years ago
Double Delight
Mr. Lincoln
and for 3rd I have GF pink. not sure about name I call it Mom's Pink as I started it from Mom's pink. She said not QE but I think it could be as it has all the characteristics of QE. If not the pink ---
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dublinbay z6 (KS)
Original Author
10 years ago
That does it--I'm going to have to buy the neighbor's property and raze the house and garage--so that I have room to plant a new bed of the most beautiful HTs on this thread!

Why did I start this thread? Just to tantalize myself? LOL

So many beauties, but that Savoy Hotel really did me in!

Kate
pat_bamaz7
10 years ago
Me too, Kate! I swore I wasnÃ¢ÂÂt going to add any more moderns to my garden...was saving my last beds for more OGRs. BUT, IÃ¢ÂÂm drooling over all of these and thinking about which remaining stretches of grass my DH might agree to part with to make more room...
bethnorcal9
10 years ago
Cynthia, I have NIGRETTE, and I love the color, it's actually even darker, almost black. But mine has such weak necks and the blooms are small and blow really fast. They're pretty for a couple days. I just wish it grew stronger and better than it does, cuz that color is "killer!"
Tessiess, SoCal Inland, 9b, 1272' elev
10 years ago
Has anyone else taken a look at the list of member favorite roses at Help Me Find? I've posted the link below. I think it is really interesting which individual roses, and classes, have received the most favorite votes.

Here are the top twenty, for those that don't want to follow the link:

1. Great Maiden's Blush, alba, 330 votes
2. Alba Maxima, alba, 294 votes
3. Autumn Damask, damask, 266 votes
4. Chapeau de Napoleon, centifolia moss, 243 votes
5. Abraham Darby, shrub, 231 votes
6. Cabbage Rose, centifolia, 221 votes
7. R. gallica officinalis, gallica, 220 votes
7. R. pendulina, species/wild, 220 votes
9. De Meaux, centifolia, 218 votes
1. Eden, climber, 214 votes
2. R. glauca, species/wild, 204 votes
3. The Bishop, centifolia, 203 votes
4. Jaune Desprez, noisette, 192 votes
5. Double Delight, hybrid tea, 190 votes
6. Austrian Copper, species/wild, 189 votes
7. Peace, hybrid tea, 186 votes
8. R. spinosissima, species/wild, 180 votes
9. Blue Moon, hybrid tea, 175
10. Rouge Formidable, 171 votes
11. R. persica, species/wild, 170 votes
Melissa

Here is a link that might be useful: Roses with most favorite votes on HMF
dublinbay z6 (KS)
Original Author
10 years ago
Melissa, that is interesting. When we did a more general favorite roses (all roses) survey last time on this forum, most of the top ones were HTs--just the opposite pattern at HMF. Guess it depends on which set of rose gardeners participates, doesn't it.

I'll tell you what else is interesting--Double Delight got the top HT rating (followed by Peace) on the HMF survey--and on the all-roses favorites survey here (previously) on this forum, DD also got the top rating (of all roses); if I remember correctly, Peace came in second on that one also. Those two HTs are also doing pretty good on this present survey--will be interesting to see how that turns out when we get another 20 or 30 or 50 votes on here.

Everyone is clear, aren't they? We are NOT today voting on whether HTs are more popular than other roses. We are just asking, of the group called HT type roses, which ones are your favorite.

If posters are interested, we can later try the same thing with other categories of roses also. Just don't want to overdo it all at once here.

: )

Kate
nastarana
10 years ago
First, one I can't grow in zone 5, Autumn, for its rapid rebloom, and ever changing colors.

Fragrant Cloud--I love the heavy fragrance and the polished red/orange/.brown colors. This one I am willing to grow as an annual @ $5 or so bodybagged.

Mr. Lincoln, still the best red HT I have seen or grown. When it gets lots of water, the perfectly formed, heavily fragrant blooms are as big as dinner plates.
seil zone 6b MI
10 years ago
I'm enjoying this thread a lot! Besides all the beautiful photos it's fun to see what grows well for one person that was an absolute horror for me, lol!
Poorbutroserich Susan Nashville
10 years ago
I have enjoyed seeing the photos and hearing the comments. One that hasn't been mentioned is
Valencia
Forever on the bush and in the vase. Blown blooms gorgeous. Nice scent. Variable coloring. Nice veining. Good petal thickness and strong growth.
Susan
Poorbutroserich Susan Nashville
10 years ago
Spiced Coffee with Valencia behind it
So variable in color and always gorgeous. Looks very pretty with any other shade of rose.
Susan
nippstress - zone 5 Nebraska
10 years ago
Great picture of Sweet Intoxication, Smoky88 - is it as dark as you've pictured it out in the garden? How is the disease resistance for you?

Susan I love Spiced Coffee and Valencia too - they'd be in my top 10 or 20 HTs, and since I have a lot of HTs that's an accomplishment.

Beth - I agree that Nigrette is darker in real life, but that's as dark as I could get it on my camera without the leaves starting to look funky. I have absolutely no skills at manipulating pictures once taken (don't even have Photobook), so all I do is reduce the contrast levels on the camera. I haven't found that mine are all that weak necked, but since the plant never gets much above 2 feet tall it's not like they're at sniffing level (if they actually had a fragrance, that is). Mine will last on the bush in my dry climate about 4-5 days, so I wouldn't say they blow as fast as yours, but Nigrette is not remotely a cutting flower. Shame, as it would make a dramatic statement. I'll have to check out the gallery for the rest of the dark red roses - thanks for the tip Diane - though these colors are notoriously difficult to capture accurately on film.

Glad to enable you to consider Savoy Hotel, Diane and Kate. For both of your hot dry climates, I really think this rose is a great match for you. Savoy Hotel is among about 5 roses that still bloomed continuously through the wretched drought last summer, though not quite as lusciously as it did all this year. It makes such a well-behaved and BS free mound about 4' high by 3' wide, round and blooming at all angles to the ground. OK, one more wicked enabling point...Heirloom has their HTs on sale for 20% off this week and Savoy Hotel is among them. It's a great rose from anywhere so order it when and where you like - I think mine was from Roses Unlimited, so this is a good indication of what it can do own-root. Just trying to be helpful (insert wicked enabling laugh here).

What are GW friends for? I'm making my Christmas list from this thread and the Austin one myself (and Munstead Wood is an absolute necessity, Kate).

Cynthia
ken-n.ga.mts
10 years ago
Palatine carries Savoy Hotel on multiflora understock.
susan4952
10 years ago
I will not read this post again. I will not read this post again. I will not read this post again. Lol I am a big liar.
susan4952
10 years ago
Gemini does have her moments.
susan4952
10 years ago
And Cherry parfait does have her moments.
Smoky88
10 years ago
Thanks Cynthia
I just realised sweet intoxication is a floribunda rose.
I have to say the real colour is not as dark as the one In the picture, it is actually a deep magenta ,but will change to mauve purple if temperature gets higher. This rose is very disease resistant and vigorous. I have been thinking about getting another one next year just for the scent ,it is sooooo powerful!

Yi

This post was edited by Smoky88 on Thu, Dec 5, 13 at 5:04
redwolfdoc_z5
10 years ago
What a great thread! I haven't amassed enough experience yet to list favourites, but many of the ones listed here are making me drool! I'm with dublinbay/Kate - I'm going to have to buy out my neighbours and turn their lots into rose gardens!
canadian_rose
10 years ago
Poorbutroserich - I totally agree with you - Valencia is superb!! Why didn't I list that in my top 3???

Plus the blooms last weeks on the bush. Rain doesn't bother the blooms - which are HUGE!!
Carol
nanadollZ7 SWIdaho
10 years ago
I listed Augusta Luise and Ascot as two of my top three favorites, but I didn't post photos of them. so--here they are now with a little different look, especially AL, which is gorgeous and has huge blooms, and grows like a weed. Diane

First, here's Ascot.
nanadollZ7 SWIdaho
10 years ago
And here's Augusta Luise, who appears in many color variations, peach, bright pink, some orange, and light blended pink, usually at the same time. Diane
sara_ann-z6bok
10 years ago
Diane - What lovely roses, I can understand why they are two of your favorites!
luxrosa
10 years ago
Favorite Pink H.T. 'Mrs. Lovell Swisher'
Favorite White H.T. Kaiserin Auguste Victoria' richly fragrant, I have the climbing form so I'd get more of these huge white roses.
Also known as The Brides Rose in the 1800's.

Favorite Yellow H.T ' Lemon Spice' very fragrant of lemon and sweet spices.

Lux
susan4952
10 years ago
Diane,that Augusta Louise...oh my goodness. And Beth, where can I get my hands on Stranger? All these roses are so pretty and healthy.
jaxondel
10 years ago
Caramella (1987), Peggy Lee, and Sterling Silver.
view1ny NY 6-7
10 years ago
Sorry, I couldn't just choose 3 favorites. Here goes:

Bride's Dream
view1ny NY 6-7
10 years ago
Peace
view1ny NY 6-7
10 years ago
Peace

{{!gwi}}
view1ny NY 6-7
10 years ago
oops, sorry for the double post.

Here's Honor.
view1ny NY 6-7
10 years ago
Pink Promise
pat_bamaz7
10 years ago
view1ny,
That's the best pic of Pink Promise I've seen...just lovely! Unfortunately, here in our heat, it's much paler pink and fades to white almost as soon as it opens.
Jasminerose, California, USDA 9b/Sunset 18
10 years ago
My favorite is Queen Elizabeth, not only because it is a great rose, but for sentimental reasons. My grandfather gave a QE rosebush to me on my birthday and my grandmother's name was Mary Elizabeth. Unfortunately, the bush is at a house that I no longer own. I should have taken her with me, but I didn't know I could dig it up without killing it. I need to get better at rose propagation and ask the new owners for cuttings. No other Queen Elizabeth will do. I'm sure there are other members here just as sentimental over their roses, but I didn't realize how much I would miss the plant.

For pure looks and enjoyment as a long lasting cut rose, my favorite HT is Saint Patrick which I have on order. Here it is a photograph taken 7 days after being cut, but it really lasted almost two weeks in the vase. I've posted the photo on the forum before, but hope it is worth posting again.
view1ny NY 6-7
10 years ago
pat, thanks. PP is a bit paler in very hot weather, but definitely pink. The first 2 years it was cream colored & I was sure that it was mislabeled but then it changed to its true color.
User
10 years ago
Dainty Bess
Mrs Oakley Fisher
Lilac Charm
sara_ann-z6bok
10 years ago
Pink Peace wasn't in my top three, but it is so dependable, disease resistant and the fragrance is wonderful!
jaxondel
10 years ago
Pat_bamaz7, 'Gruss an Aachen' is a Hybrid Tea (see Vintage Gardens, Dickerson, etc.)
kentucky_rose zone 6
10 years ago
Favorite blooms

Louise Estes
Pope John Paul II
Red Intuition
ArbutusOmnedo 10/24
10 years ago
Another HT I forgot to mention is Orchard's Pride (Aka Miss Ashley per HMF). My mom has a standard of it and is a perfect hybrid tea for a standard. Incredibly quick to rebloom, to my nose a lovely damask type scent, wonderful cream/yellow/pink tones, and it doesn't look terrible if you get behind on dead heading. I don't think I have any pictures, but it's vaguely reminiscent of Garden Party with less of a glow and more ruffled, tissue-like blooms.

It also never gets unruly and overgrown which is pretty unsightly in a standard. I forget about Orchard's Pride, but it is a real winner here by the so cal coast.

Next to my mom's OP is a standard of Pink Promise, but it rarely produces blooms of that quality. Very lovely, view1ny.

Jay
dublinbay z6 (KS)
Original Author
10 years ago
Since responses have tapered off a bit for now, I thought I might give you the HTs with the most votes so far. Keep in mind that so many HTs were named (over 70) that most of the selections got one vote only, so I'm listing the more limited number that got 2 or more votes.

Peace--8 votes
Double Delight--6 votes
Queen Eligzabeth--4 votes
Memorial Day --4 votes
Yves Piaget--3 votes
Red Intuition--3 votes
Neptune--3 votes
Tiffany--3 votes
Pope John 2--3 votes

You know, that top list looks similar to the one I remember from several years ago. Maybe Red Intuition and Pope John are new to the list. I guess we have located what are called "perennial favorites" here, haven't we.

I guess these would go in the "honorable mention" category.

Gemini--2 votes
Firefighter--2 votes
Garden Party --2 votes
Veteran's Honor--2 votes
Mrs. Oakly Fischer--2 votes
Louise Estes--2 votes

If anyone wants to go on adding your 3 top nominations, feel free to continue. We can re-total later, if necessary. : )

Kate
seil zone 6b MI
10 years ago
I didn't even think about Double Delight and I should have. I must love it, I do have two of them after all, lol!
sara_ann-z6bok
10 years ago
Seil - That photograph of Double Delight is absolutely gorgeous!
dublinbay z6 (KS)
Original Author
10 years ago
Don't feel bad--I forgot all about Peace! Where do our minds wander at times?

Won't make any real difference in the voting since both Peace and Double Delight are the top winners already!

: )

Kate

P.S. Gorgeous pic, seil.

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