as an ogr lover, what are your favorite moderns, hts and old hts
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Your most vigorous pre-1940 HTs
Comments (29)There is a particular early HT that I didn't mention before because I doubt if it is available now (I got it from Vintage Gardens). Regulars on this forum are probably really, really tired of me posting about 'Betty', but I think it needs to be mentioned on this particular thread. It's a Hybrid Tea from 1905, very Tea-like in bloom and growth habit (angular). A very warm light pink with occasional streaks of cream. The opening bud is lovely, as is the fully open flower - then, just as you think it's about finished, it goes into a very blowsy mode with petaloids in the center (my favorite mode). Where I had it, the sun backlit it at certain times of the day, and then the center of the bloom had a golden glow. It didn't have a strong fragrance, but it was an exquisite one. I adored this rose, but Vintage had it from the old Korbel garden, and I don't know if anyone else sells it. I do know that it is alive and well in Australia, because one of the authors of the Australian "Old Roses for Warm Gardens" answered a query of mine on HelpMeFind with information about its history there (and she loves it too). Laura...See MoreWhat the heck. I'm going to buy a couple HT's.
Comments (19)Zaphod, I'm a zone south of you--our area is the cusp of 5b/6a. I have Tropicana, Paradise, and Electron that were mentioned above. Tropicana sprawls in my yard--I don't think she will be able to keep herself confined to the size you'd like. It's also the biggest single disease problem I have...but when she's pretty, she's oh-so pretty and the scent is powerful. Paradise blooms like a rose on steroids. Big, FAT steroids. Electron grows well, but seems quite slow between flushes. I do not do any winter protection. Every year I tell myself that I'm GOING to do some, and then I get lazy and do nothing. Don't forget that the default (on HMF) on some of those listings is 7b--even though there are folks who grow some of those in lower zones. If you find one that strikes your fancy, click the "Gardens" tab and see if there's anyone near you or if it's grown in a lot of other zone 5 gardens....See MoreWhat are your favorite white or mostly white OGRs?
Comments (40)ROSA RUGOSA ALBA is the granddaddy of all white roses. I normally don't like single roses but this one was love at first sight (and smell). I saw this species sport growing as a security hedge in front of a Cleveland Park townhouse in Washington DC. Several things stood out about RRA and it remains one of the most beautiful white roses that I've ever seen. First, the sheer size of the blooms was astonishing, and they literally covered the shrub. The fragrance was intense and could be smelled from yards away. The unusual wrinkled foliage didn't have a speck of disease (if you want a no-spray white rose then pick this one). Would be just about perfect except for one thing: OMG the thorns! I got a crash course in what rugosa thorns look like that day. There wasn't a spot along the canes that wasn't bristling with needle-like thorns. It was obvious the owners were growing this rose as a sort of living barb wire because any intruder who tried to move past those shrubs would be ripped to shreds in seconds. I was told by the owners that in the autumn this rose has the enviable habit of showing blooms, hips and glowing gold foliage all on the shrubs at once (the leaves on rugosa roses apparently have the enviable habit of turning autumnal shades of gold, fiery orange and scarlet in the fall). COLONIAL WHITE (aka Sombreuil) is another gorgeous white rose. The official registration name is Sombreuil but the ARS really does need to change it ASAP because it still causes confusion with Mlle. de Sombreuil, a little known Tea rose. Colonial White IS NOT a Tea! It is an aggressive, winter hardy, Wichuraiana Climber that IMHO belongs in every garden. In contrast with the wicked thorny canes (Wichuraiana) the flowers are very delicate and captivating. They open from blush pink high centered buds into large, ivory-white flattened rosettes packed full of wonderfully fragrant petals. Colonial White like all good climbers blooms along the entire length of its whip-like canes that are easily trained up a support (wear good thick gardening gloves or else!). I've had the canes on other climbers break on me but those on Colonial White seem to stay supple a heck of a lot longer. Repeat bloom is very reliable, and the leathery dark green foliage shows good natural disease resistance. Colonial White can also be kept pruned down into a large shrub. The following image of Colonial White is by Missy_GardenWhimsy at the Hortiplex database. ROSE-MARIE is my favorite white rose. Unfortunately this white sport of the English rose HERITAGE has become next to impossible to find. It was only wildly available for a few years and now may be headed towards extinction. Well not if I have anything to say about it! Rose-Marie has a lot going for it: graceful growth habit, grows well on its own roots (and roots easily), lovely foliage (if you spray), and unlike the previous two roses the canes on this English rose are only lightly studded with widely spaced thorns (thanks to its Iceberg ancestry). Best of all are the medium-to-large beautiful creamy white flowers that look like they belong growing in front of an English cottage. Rose-Marie is almost always in continuous bloom. Her only real faults is the need for spraying (black spot) and the short vase life of the sinfully fragrant blossoms. Frankly, I'd really like to give David Austin a good talking to about this rose. I'm so frustrated by its lack of availability that I've begun to root cuttings from my single grafted plant. If availability doesn't improve then in a few years I'm going to start giving this rose away FOR FREE! Other beloved white roses include Climbing Clotilde Soupert, Coquette des Blanches and Fair Bianca, but I think I'll wait until later to write about them. Here is a link that might be useful:...See Morecan you show me your rectangular HT beds?
Comments (22)I have most of my HT's in a rectangular bed which is about 5 x 17. The border allowed me to add soil and mulch to bury the grafts and encourage own-root growth. The bed to the right of the brick walk. Probably two or three years after planting. The bed (on left) viewed from the other side a year later. Angel Face and Chrysler Imperial are the prominent blooms. A few years later in the fall. Obviously after gardener had lost interest. Recently during spring flush....See Moreaimeekitty
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