Comments on Golden Zest, McCartney rose?

14 years ago

Well I've given Jude the Obscure 4 years now and it is out for next year. Very poor blooms and rebloom so I was figuring on replacing it with either Golden Zest or The McCartney rose......your thoughts please.

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chefcdp

14 years ago

The Macartney rose is hardy enough here in Tropical Minnesota, zone 4a. It suffers winter about the same as other HT's. It dies to the snow or mulch line, but has enough vigor to restore itself and then some. It is a nice rose here and the only complaint is that it could flower more.

In good growing years it gets over five foot and is among the tallest HT's. It just smells so good too.

Lemon Zest struggles here. It does not flower very well, the the few it produces are wonderful. It did not earn it's keep here so I gave it to a friend who has it in a sheltered spot with a Southern exposure. It is still struggling and may not get fully established. It would be happier in a warmer climate.

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hoovb zone 9 sunset 23
14 years ago
Who is selling 'Golden Zest'? Spectacular fragrance on that one. I would love to have it.

'The McCartney Rose' (assuming you mean the pink HT) has strong fragrance, big strong grower, excellent bloom production, long cutting stems, not enough petals for my warm dry climate. Slight tendency to mildew, better than average rust resistance. Tends to bloom in clusters more than single stem here.
michaelg
14 years ago
You need to hear from midwestern Z. 4-5 about the hardiness of The McCartney. Mine died over winter. However, it looked like it may have been canker more than cold, and canker is less of a problem in the Midwest..

This rose has shown blackspot resistance in another garden here. It is susceptible to mildew, but that's not a big deal in most of the country.
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markiz37
14 years ago
hoovb, Roses Unlimited is selling "Golden Zest"
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zeffyrose
14 years ago
McCartney Rose does well in my no-spray garden---I love this rose---it really is an easy rose to grow and the fragrance is wonderful----I don't ususally buy HD roses but this one jumped in my cart a few years ago and so far so good----
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hoovb zone 9 sunset 23
14 years ago
Thanks markiz37!
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kr222
14 years ago
I bought my Golden Zest last season from Jackson and Perkins. So far it is quite healthy. We'll see how it overwinters here in zone 6b, but so far I am pleased with it.

Here is a link that might be useful: Kim's Garden
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elks
14 years ago
TMR is spectacular here between the Great Lakes, to 6 or more feet and perfectly clean without sprays of any kind. It is pruned to the ground in spring, but bounces right back. A favourite.
Steve.
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littlesmokie
14 years ago
In case those in other climates are reading....Here The MacCartney Rose is very susceptible to both blackspot (whatever strain it is we have here) and mildew. It defoliates by at least 50%, but regrows its leaves and grows huge every year. Great vigor. (I am no spray.)

I keep him because the fragrance is one of the very best and it wafts well. It does not last well as a cut flower compared to other HT's I have though.
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pegandken
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14 years ago
Many thanks to all of you for your comments!!! I think I'm going to try for both roses next year!! Thanks again, Ken.
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