I love mine - its an old one from Jackson Perkins. It looks rough right now, we just survived "Snowmageddon" where temps got to 3. It was horribly cold all week. It is still alive - a big bush - and I am waiting to see what other tiny leaves come out on it before I start pruning it. Smells divine and has been a hardy rose for me. I may get another one just it case. One of my favorite whites.

I am going to either put open shelves across the window with antique bottles and other glass pieces (an extension of the shelves across the entire back wall - 20 feet) OR a gorgeous antique Morrocan iron work screen over the window. It's strange I know, but my kitchen is shaping up to be a mixture of modern and antique - sort of form and function peppered with a little steam punk.

Well they still call it shade cloth your question in a sence is kind of like saying a scewdriver is a nail. Hard to answer question from you thanks for the challenge On a good note all I can offer are options the choice is ultimitly yours http://www.greenhousemegastore.com/category/covering?gclid=CP_v69S528QCFZUdgQodDG8A9g Then you add Humity to the eqation ? Wouldn't that be best dealt with by haveing plants in the hot house that alreay enjoy higher humidty ? Yet there is no easy way out for us is there ? You want succulents. Airid plants for higher humidity Sounds easy enough to me rigth now I'm thinking a decent size dehumidifier and a fire fighters sized air fan or three. Yes there are some very elaberate air control climate control systems out there as well but your talking 10-15 K $$ to buy and apx 150 $$ more per month to operate

Not much traffic on this forum lately! I don't have my area setup yet for this year, but will try to take some pics when I do. My system gets a little more efficient each year I think. First time I tried wintersowing I did it in the unheated garage in December. Numb fingers on filthy hands and snot running down my face from the cold.... not fun. I moved inside the next year! For several years I used the kitchen and just did a few tiring marathon sowing sessions so I wouldn't have to lug everything out and clean it all up again too many times. The kitchen was right off the backyard where I kept my pot ghetto. I kept a big tub of potting mix in the dining room for weeks on end to keep it from freezing. It worked pretty well... until I got three naughty cats. I couldn't turn my back for one second. They like to "help" too much! Jumping into my tub of damp potting mix to roll around in it, running down the hallway with an open seed packet in their mouth and emptying the contents everywhere, etc., etc. Then I decided to install a laundry tub with sprayer in the basement workroom. I can close the door to the basement to keep the kitties out. It is heated down there and with some good tunes, actually kind of pleasant. I can spread out my supplies and leave it a bit messy between sowing sessions. I also switched to quart yogurt containers to sow in which are easier to plant out of, clean, and store. I prepare new containers with the drill press that is in the basement too. I put them in a large concrete mixing tub or storage container lids for sowing and carrying upstairs. It holds quite a few of them and I can easily carry a dozen or more of them at a time. I use large anti-fatigue floor mats to make standing on the concrete floor easier. This year I may even clean off one of the workbenches so I can sit and sow! Looks like you have a really nice setup too Martha. It is good to have an area where you can spread out and get a bit messy for projects.