Red hybrid tea full of petals

14 years ago

I have some lovely red hybrid teas which I would never part with but I just love the way Valencia opens with ALL THOSE PETALS my goodness. What red hybrid teas are there that are full like that.

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kstrong
14 years ago
Probably Toro (also known as Uncle Joe) has the closest form and size to Valencia and lots and lots of big petals. But you don't say where you are. Toro in my foggy coastal Southern California climate won't open -- it balls badly. That is a rose that likes the midwest and likes heat, so I don't grow it anymore.
the_bustopher z6 MO
14 years ago
I would nominate Alec's Red, Loving Memory, and maybe Big Ben. Janice Kellogg has quite a few, but its classification may be up for grabs. Osiria has quite a few, but it is a red/white bicolor. Maybe these will be worthy of checking out.
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pauline-vi-8
14 years ago
Loving Memory for me, for sure!!
jmac_2008
14 years ago
Velvet Frangrance: beautiful crimsom color, full of petals, and full of fragrance. See it on HelpMeFind.com
Mine is from Heirloom.
hoovb zone 9 sunset 23
14 years ago
'Traviata', but no fragrance. Better-than-average disease resistance, though.
pocajun
14 years ago
alec's red is just as big and very fragrant and full but not a dark red. Deep Secret is very fragrant and full but not as big. One of my favorites is Peter Mayle which is big very very fragrant and full but is a Deep Pink.

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judyok
Original Author
14 years ago
Thank you so much everyone! I am going to review each and every suggestion. kstrong I'm in Oklahoma, plenty of heat.
henryinct
14 years ago
Why not Mister Lincoln or the obvious...Oklahoma?
serenasyh
14 years ago
Yup, I second Mr. Lincoln because not only does it have so many petals and big blooms, it has drop-dead wonderful Fragrance!!! however, you got to feed, feed, feed with sea tea/fish emulsion/alfalfa to get it to be big fat and lush and Don't!!! hard prune it either! So long as you follow this, he is wonderful.

Oops, I forgot! He is a deep beautiful red in Spring and Fall. But he will turn magenta if you have blazing heat. Mine always stay big no matter the heat unless I hard prune--that's the only time I get pathetic itsy bitsy blooms. But even the tiniest still smells incredible!
judyok
Original Author
14 years ago
Sorry I'm so late responding to the last two posts. Henryinct I do indeed have Oklahoma and Mister Lincoln those are a couple of those red roses I mentioned in my earlier post that I would never part with. I have them in a vase right now along with Valencia and I noticed how slowly Valencia opens with all those petals packed in there and I was looking for a red that is similar, but I still love love mr lincoln and oklahoma. Seranasyh you are right about mr lincoln he is a big bruiser of a rose. My son and I were standing next to it yesterday and were guessing that it is easily 3 feet higher than the 6 foot fence. I have 4 red hybrid teas, but I a greedy little rose growing and I just have to try one more.

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