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need advice re rose hedge

14 years ago

I am looking for advice about what rose to use to build a short to medium sized rose hedge. The problem is that I need to plant it in the next month, so it can get rained on all through our mild wet winter, in the hopes that it would bloom in the Spring. I realize that this may be impossible. Are there ANY kind of roses that will bloom 6 months after you plant them?

I don't care if they are modern ground covers, or what. My family is getting a deceased relatives house ready to go on the market next March/April. The house is on land that ascends up a hill. At the street front, there is a 3 foot tall brick retaining wall next to the sidewalk. Just behind the wall, growing in a bed that is level with the top of the wall, is an ancient decrepit half dead 2 1/2 foot high hedge. It is coming out, and I want to know if there is any fast growing rose we could put in as a new hedge. As explained, it would have to bloom next Spring. I don't care if it has grown together into a real hedge yet, as long as each bush blooms a lot. The area gets plenty of light. The length of the bed is about 100 feet. Willing to spend money buying larger plants, etc.

If this is impossible because any rose would take longer to get established & bloom, are there any other flowering plants anyone could recommend that we could use? Climate is Mediterranean. Good drainage, because the bed is 3 feet higher than the street. There are lots of happy azaleas in that part of the garden, but I was hoping to have some different plants too.

Thanks for any thoughts anyone might have -

Jackie

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jerijen
14 years ago
Jackie -- Plant Iceberg.
If it's not pruned a lot, and the plants are placed closely, it can be a magnificent continuous-blooming hedge for Southern California.
It should be disease-free, mildly-fragrant, and widely available.

I don't know where you are in CA, but if you are in SoCal, Otto & Sons in Fillmore sells to the Landscape trade.
I suspect they will have well-grown Icebergs.

Some will recommend Simplicity -- but you will do better with Iceberg. Just plant close, and don't prune hard.

Jeri
hoovb zone 9 sunset 23
14 years ago
Yes, Iceberg planted closely is just the ticket.

Here is a link that might be useful: some pictures of iceberg hedges
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jerijen
14 years ago
Knockouts are not much used in Southern CA, for they have a tendency to mildew here.

Iceberg, OTOH, is used EVERYWHERE because in SoCal, it's pretty much bulletproof.
As the article Hoov provided says, it may be a cliche here, but this is a case where the cliche WORKS.

Do be sure to plant them closely, and they should be spectacular.

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jacqueline9CA
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14 years ago
Thanks for the suggestion of Ice Berg! We are on No CAL, not So, but I have a climbing Ice Berg in my garden (only 4 blocks from the house I am talking about) and it is thriving - actually it has grown over the arch we built for it, and then 20 feet up the house! However, it is very healthy, so I'm sure the shrub version would be too. I think it will look great on top of the old brick wall.

Jackie
jerijen
14 years ago
Down in Hancock Park, one of the older gracious areas of Los Angeles, there was one big house that had a long, long double row of Iceberg, flanking a concrete path from the sidewalk to the front porch.
It was a magnificent sight, truly.
Anyone who saw it could not fail to see the value of that rose, in California.

Jeri

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