Bare root or own root?
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Comments (8)Jackie In zone 5 most root stock available from garden centers and big box stores is Dr. Huey or sometimes thornless multiflora. Fortuniana will not survive our usually cold zone 5 winters. Unless ordered on-line from speciality vendors all our roses in stores here are from the Tyler Texas area and are on Dr. Huey root stock. Canadian suppliers often bud on multiflora, a white five petaled rose that's often found wild in our pastures and along road sides. Ive never seen de la Grifferaie used as a root stock in zone 5 although it's probably hardy enough to survive. It's used in California because it's tolerant of your alkaline soil conditions. Our soils tend to be acidic....See MoreQuestion about planting a rose below the dirt.
Comments (10)The only downside to planting roses too deep that I've read about and believe is that the fertilizer has to travel further to reach the roots. I've also read about "cane rot" but haven't seen it happen in my garden. And my roses are planted very deep. When I started this garden, virtually all the roses arrived as own-root bands in Spring 2013 -- some I added the following year, and four I received the year before. All were potted-on in 1- or 2-gal containers to grow a bit as I prepped the new beds. They were planted in late Summer directly into the native soil, and then I raised the beds around them. After all the tree trimmings and mulch and manure, the surfaces of the beds were 6-8" above the ground level, and effectively, the roses were planted 6-8" deeper than the soil level in their pots. They continued to grow and grow and grow. This year is their third year, and while some were hit hard by Winter last year (much less so this year), most are rather shockingly large considering their young ages. I'm sure that if I dug down through all the mulch, composted manure, tree leaves, and coffee grounds I've put down, I'd find that the roses have generated roots along the buried portions of their canes. With budded/grafted roses, this would mean they'd "go own-root over time." Being as mine are already own-root, I figure that it means they have a jump-start on having deep roots for reaching water between the rains, and more shallow roots that have better access to the more nutrient-rich organic matter I've been piling on the beds. Of course, your results may vary depending upon your conditions, but I can say that I've found no ill effects of deep-planting the roses in my garden. :-) ~Christopher...See MoreWorried about my lagerfeld in zone 6a
Comments (7)Do nothing. Anything you do to try and 'help' it is likely to do more harm than good. The best thing for it is snow, and it is rare for us to get cold temperatures without at least some of it. The problem is that we do not get cold and stay cold. The temperatures depend on exactly where the cold northern air meets the warm oceanic air. Since this is normally somewhere between north of Albany and the Atlantic south of NYC, winter usually means a lot of temperature fluctuations. Any time the roses are covered with something that isn't snow, and the temperatures are above freezing, various fungi can and do move in on the rose canes....See MoreWho sells bare root, own root roses?
Comments (12)Dingo, I have studied the Edmunds and Austin catalogs, but the own root, bare root rose availability, though seen by me, did not register. I believe the deep rooted assumption, since I have been growing roses for just short of 50 years, that bare root roses are always grafted roses, kicked in. Own root container grown roses are still a wonder to me, yet alone own root, bare root roses! Thank you for reinforcing a new concept to me. Rifis, thank you for bringing this to my attention, I did read that and thought it was possibly a misprint. Since the bareroots are primarily grafted on vigorous rootstocks, I thought own root roses were not husky enough to take the fall harvesting, cleaning, and winter cold storage as a, say multiflora rootstock rose can, and be sold as bare root roses, just like grafted roses. Now my question is, "Do they perform as well as container grown roses?"...See Morejacqueline9CA
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