Of all the Cochet roses, I love the bush form of white "Maman Cochet" the best. Because of its' -coloring, an ivory-white with outer petals a rich pink. -petal substance, it lasts well as a cut rose in the cooler seasons. -rapid re-bloom, the climbing form only gave me 3 bloom cycles a year, same as that which most H.T.s produce here, but the bush form of white "Maman Cochet blooms in January, March, May, July, September and October, twice as many bloom cycles as the climbing form. Jeri, I never loved "Niles Cochet" until I saw your photo, that shade of red wasn't one of my favorite hues, but now I see that altogether on such a large plant the white balances the red very beautifully. Thank you for giving me an opportunity to review an old acquaintance. I think I must have that rose. Luxrosa

In my garden CC is a slow-growing, beautiful, healthy plant that gets big in time. Sharp Tea scent. Neither CC nor MT (I'm assuming the latter is our 'Archduke Joseph') has cerise tints. MT/AJ has slightly darker flowers and great foliage, and gets huge; CC has good foliage, not so strikingly handsome as MT/AJ's, and sunset-colored blooms. CC's flowers are usually semi-double, but at times can become fully double, at which time they look a David Austin bloom gone fluorescent. These are both in my top ten. Melissa

Thanks everybody for your input. I went ahead and ordered NILES COCHET along with two other Teas and a Bourbon. He is simply too handsome not to give him a try. The fragrance really doesn't have to be strong. It just has to be present. For example, BELINDA'S DREAM has a light fruity fragrance (almost like Celestial Seasons raspberry tea, but milder). Nothing to rave about but it is persistent and detectable under most conditions. That combined with gorgeous flowers, unbeatable repeat, and superb disease resistance makes her a keeper in mom's garden (I also planted a Belinda's Dream in my MIL's garden, but don't tell my mom). If Niles Cochet's blossoms live up to the images AND he has some fragrance AND his foliage is resistant to black spot in coastal Virginia, then he will be worth the effort/expense. I think I need to give my card a rest. Here is what I've ordered just within the last week or so: Clementina Carbonieri Climbing Radiance Climbing White Maman Cochet (2) Deuil du Dr. Reynaud (pour moi, j'adore Bourbons!) Niles Cochet Rock Hill Peach Tea Souvenir de Francis Gaulain Of course I still need 2 more shrub roses, 1 Floribunda, 1 Tea, 2 climbing Teas, 1 vintage Hybrid Tea, and a David Austin. Sigh, it never ends...

I'm a little confused, some of these are not entirely tea, let me know if the noisette / china hybrids should be reported on elsewhere. A Mme Antoine Mari - no sign of mildew, occasional bs exclusively on old leaves. 2 years old now General Schablikine - as Mme Mari. Beales 'Anna Olivier' - not a spot on it all season - first year rose, still tiny Isabella Sprunt - ditto (if the blooms didn't lose form so fast this would be my perfect yellow rose) Clementina Carbonieri - ditto Mme Jules Gravereaux - ditto, except 4ft tall, not tiny. Duchess D'Auerstadt - ditto, 6ft up it's arch. No blooms but immaculate. Lamarque has been immaculate the whole summer and has taken off like a racehorse in its pot - it's well over 6ft tall. Destined to grow over an arch onto a warm wall. I love, love, love it. Still, have to see what the damp dank winter does. Perle d'Or, small, first year, spotless. B Reve d'Or has had a touch of bs on the long branch that dangled in the undergrowth - once propped up that disappeared. No sign of mildew. Comtesse du Cayla in a pot mildewed, the one in the ground did not, so I think it's an artefact of water supply rather than the rose. Lady H - blackspots a bit when unhappy; i.e., I haven't watered it enough. Never mildews. Sanguineua - occasional spots, no mildew - in desperate need of a bigger pot, so factor that in. Mutabilis, never mildew, will bs and shed and regrow leaves rapidly. No more than say, 10%. Isabella Nabonnand - needs a new pot, some bs, but it's been swamped by an ambitious euphorbia so that might be part of it. Maman Cochet and Maman Cochet white - these leave me this autumn to their new up the road home. Both had a teeny touch of mildew and bs, but I think that was lack of water related. Incidentally, they ball like it's their job. They have excellent sun and air flow too. General Galleni is about 6 inches high in his pot and not doing much. Had a touch of mildew when in shade early this spring. Beale's 'Archiduc Joseph', tiny, had a touch of bs early - again was shaded. Souvenir de Leonie Viennot. Had a little mildew its first spring and autumn, in a pot. Clean so far this year, apart from limited bs on old leaves. It bloomed like a trouper in my hottest,driest spot. C Crepuscule mildews for me, and has done so lightly but unremittingly since it first leafed out. I am not in love with it atm, really hope it grows out of it. it is in the more moisture retentive area of the garden so I don't think it's a dry root issue, unfortunately. Alexander Hill Gray, ditto, also it balls, ugh. No bs though. Le Vesuve - doesn't mildew, does BS periodically. Don't love the effect of bare thorny canes frankly. It does bloom its socks off though.