Relationship between Teas & Chinas.
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Comments (15)Thanks, Randy; I wish I could, too...perhaps I'll reconsider at some point (might see if they have anything to say about the matter at Longwood Gardens or Winterthur). In my opinion, sea buckthorn & autumn olive (wineberry, too, for that matter) have gotten bad raps (though, except for wineberry, my experience is limited to named cultivars-which, as I understand it, are named partly due to the fruit, but also for their more manageable/less invasive growth habit). You do have to watch the propensity of wineberry to tip root, but that is also the case with other rubus - jewel black raspberry, for instance. Also, perhaps it is due to a somewhat clay soil, but neither my sea buckthorns nor autumn olive (nor goji, nor aronia) - all considered "invasive" by some - have here shown no such inclination. They are all extremely healthy, both in plant & nutritional value (and larger fruit than the nonnamed varities). All these, as I understand it, are currently under scientific investigation for very high health benefit (including the possibility of fighting cancer!). I've read that the ability of the plant to fend for itself, in edible plants, is also an indication of its potential health benefit. And, there is also purslane (and dandelion (now there's an invasive alien, but also most beneficial; root, leaves & flower each have a particular use))...... Also (on a different perspective, as I (at least not yet) am not considering them as a food source) earthworms are also invasive aliens....See MoreDying potted teas & chinas! :-(
Comments (23)Hi Peggy I grow lots of things in pots in Florida in Jungle Mix (one of my faves) but... not when the heat is on. My pot season starts in September and runs through... well now. When the heat starts I start pulling plants. Good ones (roses, fruits, perennials) go in the ground. Seasonal (tomatoes, other veggies, seasonal flowers) go in the compost bin. The heat is just too much to keep up with the watering and heaven forbid we should want to go out of town. I have 5 more roses waiting their planting turn and 8 have already been tucked in. As far as a good mix Al over in the Container forum has a terrific one. Fast draining=happy plants, it is wonderful. Can't be bought, have to DIY. I have trouble finding the bagged shredded pine bark this far south in FL even though it is manufactured upstate and shipped nationwide. Denise just north of you in Englewood (near Venice)...See MoreFertilizer for Teas, China's, and a few D Austin's - what works
Comments (16)I agree with Nik as well. Since I have a small farm and have done multiple soil tests to maintain pastures I've got good working knowledge of the make up of my soil. Every soil test I've ever had done here comes back "very high" in phosphorus and "high" in potassium. It is actually unusual for soil that has not been used for agriculture to be deficient in phosphorous. Nitrogen moves through the soil and can deplete rapidly, but phosphorus stays put. Too much phosphorus can be damaging to plants. "According to the University of South Florida IFAS Extension, phosphorus will accumulate to toxic levels when applied as often as nitrogen and potassium." This means that continued use of a "balanced" fertilizer (like a 5-5-5) can lead to over accumulation of P! I have horses and the main thing I do for my roses is apply compost of horse manure/stall leavings a few times a year. I have used horse manure of any age--well composted, somewhat composted, straight off the pitch fork from cleaning stalls--with only good results. I do keep it from actually touching the canes at the base of the plant. Since I'm trying to be aware of my already good phosphorus levels, and the compost is adding more NPK plus a host of other goodies for the soil the only thing I add is nitrogen by way of alfalfa pellets because we know that's what depletes the most rapidly. I also garden in what's normally heavy compacted clay, but with the generous compost amendments it's pretty wonderful stuff. I'm a feed the soil not the plant type gardener. Personally, I think overall soil health which makes the nutrients *available* is as important as what nutrients are there in what quantities. Here is a link that might be useful: ARS article on P This post was edited by subk3 on Wed, Jun 11, 14 at 14:39...See MoreAre There Any 'Shade Tolerant' Teas (or chinas)?
Comments (13)Nancy, I discovered that about Cramoisi just as summer started. I had him in an area that got full sun from sun-up until sun-down, with plenty of water, and he just sat there and put out yuckky looking blooms. They always looked balled up and cruddy. I always had to pick cruddy leaves off of him. I moved him a couple of months ago to an area where some palm trees shade him until mid to late morning, with sun the rest of the day. He immediately perked up. He has grown like crazy, and blooms beautiful blooms like crazy. He's taking a rest right now, but I think the heat is bugging him too! His foliage is perfect. Originally I was going to put Louis Philippe in the spot that is in front of the house wall (white), with Marie Van Houtte on the corner. Louis started to get some yuckky leaves, not a lot, but several. I moved the pot into full blazing hot sun and the leaves have stayed clean. I'm not sure if it is just coincidence or if he is telling me "no" for that spot. That's why I asked about some of the teas. I'd hate to plant him, find out he's not thrilled, and then have to hack him up trying to move him later. I don't have enough experience with Louis to know. He's a new one for me. I am glad to hear Marie van Houtte has a nice bush shape. I haven't grown her, but always wanted one, so I had no idea how she grew. All of the above roses are lovely so I want one of each (that I don't have already). sandy...See Moreingrid_vc so. CA zone 9
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