.....because checking on other sites for info, the size varies from 2.5 feet - 5 ft (Rogersroses), a giant 10ft shrub (David Austin) to 20ft (various HMF). Then, it is either once flowering or continuous, with a little fragrance or a strong old rose fragrance. Are we talking about the same roses. Lens songbird rose. Is there a climbing one? a miniature version? (clutching at straws)

At a friends to the north of here it is just enormous. She assumed otherwise also. I don't know what to say. I guess you'll either have to keep cutting or get rid of it.

If you had wanted it to get that big it would not have done so.

From what I can tell by looking it up, it is always a climber, and gets huge everywhere. It is confusing that HMF says it is a once bloomer, while Beales says it is continuous blooming. What has yours done re length of bloom?

If it really is at least recurrent, it might get less "rare" - it is gorgeous. Of course, I am in CA and am used to large roses getting really huge here - almost always larger than they are said to.

So, I guess either you should experiment with hard pruning, and see what happens, or dig it up and plant it somewhere next to a large tree or house. I have a neighbor who loves roses, and has dozens, all without ever learning very much about them. I have been able to find homes for some of my unwanted (only because of no space left) roses in her garden - I just volunteer to plant them in a suitable site for her, and so far in our climate they have survived and thrived, even without much care.

Good Luck with this one-

Jackie

Extreme newbie here - if the only problem with PdG is that it's too darned large - would it be a candidate for pegging of some kind?

I saw that mentioned here (general Roses somewhere here in GardenWeb here, not necessarily THIS forum) - would that be a viable suggestion for you? If not, could you donate it to somebody's local garden? Or a school somewhere?

well, I think I am just going to sneak in a bit of guerilla planting around my local cemetary, or possibly on one of the municiple areas around my housing estate - it is one of those little white flowered hybrid musks which fit really well in an informal landscape and I will get a little secret thrill on my daily dogwalk.

Go for it!

Here is a link that might be useful: guerrillagardening.org

My 'Pleine de Grace' is about ten years old and is easily eight feet across and ten feet high as a shrub. It will climb a tree if given a proper location. Mine was planted next to a Juniper but I needed to direct it up the tree and tie it to the tree to get it started. I have never seen a second crop of blooms on mine and didn't know it was considered remontant.