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Before starting to Winter Sow ...

PVick
15 years ago

how many of you folks out there started plants from seed? I was outside checking my containers, and sowing a few more, and it got me thinking.

Before starting to WS in the winter of 2001-2002, I didn't do much gardening at all. In 1999, on a hummer, I grew some tomatoes, peppers and marigolds which were started inside on a sunny windowsill; they did OK, but the gardening bug didn't really bite me. Because I grew Romas that year, and they were full of BER, I started to research to find out what it was on my toms and how to deal with it, and how to grow tomatoes better. Which led me to GardenWeb. 2000 was a bust year - too many family issues to get anything growing. In the spring of 2001, I did my windowsill thing again, with toms and cukes. Got some store-bought petunias, a couple of non-stop begonias and called myself a gardener.

I spent a lot of time on GW, oohing and ahhing at all the pics of beautiful plants. THEN - in the late summer of 2001, I found Trudi's WS essay. OMG! Went nuts buying seed from anywhere I could find them, and that winter I jumped into gardening with all four feet! Haven't looked back since.

Now, I'm the resident expert on plants - who wudda thunk it? Got a sick plant? Ask that lady on the 11th floor if she can help. Don't know the name of something? Ask PV, she'll tell you. Hey, PV, what are you growing this year? Any extras that you can give me? People in my complex who I don't know seem to know me - apparently, news of my balcony garden gets around! And, much to my delight, I've noticed in the last couple of years that there are a lot more folks growing things on their balconies around here. I like to think that I've helped to start a trend.

Oh, I still buy plants - sometimes even if I know I have seeds for them at home; they just call out to me until I simply cannot leave them. Especially if they are small and in need of some nurturing.

Friends at work with houses and ground gardens ask my advice about what to grow for this area or that; it's quite gratifying, even if I have to do the research to give them answers. They could probably do the same thing themselves, but, hey, the more I learn, the more prepared I'll be for my own ground garden. The thought of which, by the way, scares me half to death!

Winter sowing has given me a hobby/avocation that I had never dreamed of.

So, what's your seed-starting history?? Stop checking those containers for a few minutes and do tell ... LOL!

PV

Comments (18)

  • karendee
    15 years ago

    PV what a great story. I have started from seeds indoors a couple times. this year I was struggling because I kept killing off my indoor seedlings. So I stopped lurking here in the WS forum and tried it! I am so excited.

    Other than my WS seeds I have only been able to grow seeds in container once. I sowed a ton of herb seeds into 2 large pots one year and had a bunch of herbs.

    So for me WS this year will be the most I have grown by seed so far.

    Some of my neighbors have teased me a bit but those are the ones that come by and tell me they like my plants etc. So I don't pay attention to them at all.

    I am hooked on WS and I wish when I lurked here before I had decided to try it then cause I would have saved myself a lot of money, the trouble, the dead seedlings and all the mess in my basement!

    Karen

  • mmqchdygg
    15 years ago

    1/2 green, 1/2 brown thumb before discovering WS in 2005.
    Nobody but my mother understands me, and they will say to my face how great I do at gardening, but yet still can't get past the weird milk-jug "thing."
    But I work with engineers, too. They simplify nothing.

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    When I was a teenager, my father ripped out the leggy, half-dead shrubs along the front of the house, and it looked bare, so each summer I would buy a couple of flats of shade loving annuals to plant there. Once I got married, the first couple of homes we lived in were rentals, so I wasn't going to invest a lot of money in landscaping, so I continued to buy a few annuals to plant in already established beds. When we finally bought our first home, I dug up the sunniest spot in the backyard, and planted a vegetable garden from seed. I was so excited that everything germinated and grew, but we were in a heavily wooded area, so almost everything got eaten by the squirrels, chipmunks, birds, and slugs. After a couple of years of not much harvest, I gave up.

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    I have been growing from seed for more than 40 years. Grew up on a farm with a big vegetable garden so growing veggies from seed was just part of life. Mostly I direct seeded vegetables and annuals. Started direct sowing perennial seeds in the summer for fall plant out about 10 years ago. Also started tomato seeds inside and a few annuals.

    I think I found out about winter sowing from an article telling about Trudi's tomato seed offer. Started with a few containers the first year and with the first sprouts I was hooked. Now I ws hundreds of containers each year sharing with family, friends, and neighbors.

    Being in z: 4 I still start tomatoes and a few annuals inside. Everything else is ws or spring sown or fall sown using ws techniques.

  • floodthelast
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    Lets see year 1 with the house, divided existing daff. bulbs, planted some cornflowers from seed, added a few plants from my moms.
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  • elctj
    15 years ago

    This is my first posting, so I'll just jump into the fray. I fell into this WS forum by accident and have enjoyed reading all your experiences tremendously.
    We live in the Wisconsin woods on 40 acres in zone 4. I've been amateur gardening for many years and, like many of you, find it to be my therapy and joy. I get mixed signals from my husband, who feels it takes up too much of my time, but he does enjoy the results and the admiration of our friends and neighbors for our gardens.

    I started seed sowing indoors several years ago to save money and have expanded this hobby to take up much of our walk-out basement. I currently have 4 - 4 shelf racks in front of our big windows and am running out of space with much more to do. I couldn't believe my luck when I happened on this website, but I must admit to having mixed feelings - I'm a bit nervous about starting something new (it's my age I think) and I find it hard to believe it could be that easy and successful. HOWEVER, I'm more than willing to give it a try. I've put out 3 jugs a few days ago and have mail-ordered a bunch of additional seeds that I can't wait to plant. It looks like most of you are in warmer areas than my zone 4, so I hope I'm not too far behind.

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  • kqcrna
    15 years ago

    elctj: Welcome to wintersowing!

    It's not your age. We were all skeptical at first. Wait until you see those first sprouts! Your life will never be the same. Some perennials are a little more tricky, take longer to germinate, so I hope that you have included some annuals in your list. Tender annuals are best done close to your last frost date, so hold off for things like zinnias. The method remains the same, you just sow a couple of weeks before your last frost date.

    We have lots of successful wintersowers in zone 4 who will give you some encouragement. I'm in zone 6, but with 3 great wintersowing years under my belt I'm now in year four.

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  • tiffy_z5_6_can
    15 years ago

    Welcome elctj!!

    PV,

    I am a great procrastinator. I will jump into things head first and feverishly go at it and then let it go for a while and then go back and finish whenever. Gardening accepts this kind of behavior and when I discovered this, that's when I began to pursue what has become a wonderful passion.

    My gardens tolerate me. They survive my sporadic neglect and respond well to my occasional nurturing of the soil around them. They never disappoint me. They have taught me tolerance as well.

    My mother grew a small garden while raising 9 children. Her quiet time was spent there and now she has huge unruly gardens which are a sight to behold. She paints and does sculptures and is one of the most creative persons I know. She sees beauty in simplicity. She takes great comfort in weeding the gardens. So do I.

    Can anyone relate?

  • PVick
    Original Author
    15 years ago

    Oh, I can relate. I'm a jack-of-all-trades, master of a few. I fliter and flutter around from one thing to the next, moving on (for a time) when I begin to get bored ... or overwhelmed by my own enthusiasm.

    Gardening, since finding WS, has managed to hold my attention very consistently now for eight years, which even I find surprising. I don't have to weed much (smile), and my "garden" is really too small to require a lot of time, but I find the plant kingdom so fascinating that my quiet time is now spent reading and researching all I can about it.

    Amazing to me.

    PV

  • mnwsgal
    15 years ago

    elctj, I am still ws perennials, only those perennials needing long periods of cold stratification would be best sown next winter. I am still ws those that need 2-3 weeks of cold strat. Will start most annuals in April and the early part of May so you have plenty of time.

  • drippy
    15 years ago

    Hi, elctj! You will love it here - and with that much land, wintersowing will be perfect for you!

    Until I got to be an adult with a home of my own, I was an "on and off" gardener. My Dad was really into it, and I pretty much worshipped him, so we did some gardening together when I was a kid. Fell out of it in my teens and early 20s. Mid-20's, with house & kids of my own, I got back into it. When we moved to the southcoast of MA in 96, we bought a house with great windows, and I got back into growing things from seed. Never had a light set-up, but was able to get a goodly amount to grow in the windows; legginess and damp-off loss notwithstanding. The week I learned about the WS Forum (on another garden forum site) coincided with the time DH walked around my transplanted tomatoes, peppers, and flowers that were waiting to be hardened off, and murmured "It's a jungle in here."

    Once I found out that growing seeds outside works for nearly every seed I can think of, provided you time it right (tropicals, too, you just have to start some of them later), I never looked back.

    I still start some things in my windows in February, because I have to see green. LOL, they still get leggy (it's too early to start seeds indoors in Feb in MA, they should be started in March!), and I still fight damp off. I've limited myself to two flats, though, and that provides enough transplants to feed my need for early green without turning the whole house into a jungle.

    I depend on WS for 98% of what I grow.

  • elctj
    15 years ago

    Thank you all for the warm welcome. Not only was this my first posting on the GardenWeb, but my first posting anywhere. You all seem to have so much fun I just had to join in. I don't have much time at the computer and won't be able to be as active as I'd like, but will look forward to joining in whenever I can.

    mnwsgal, we're almost neighbors (I'm over in St. Croix County) and I'm glad to hear you've been successful in our frozen tundra. I appreciate the encouragement. One of the worries I had with ws was finding a good location for my containers - our 3 dogs are likely to mess with them anywhere close to the house. We do have a fenced-in garden that keeps the dogs, deer and other critters out, but up to now I couldn't get there because the gate was snowed in. Now that I know I still have time for most of my seeds, the garden will be the perfect place and I'll get busy this weekend.

    EJ

  • mnwsgal
    15 years ago

    EJ, be sure to check the MN forum for other MN related info including upcoming plant swaps. It is a great place to meet other gardeners including some other winter sowers.

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