Francis Dubreuil or Baron Girod de L'ain

jerijen

13 years ago

How's your area for rust and/or powdery mildew?

Jeri

Baron Girod de l'Ain is the most winter hardy of them, and a bit more fuzzy when it comes to rootstock. I shall have to grow the both. I have planted the baron twice, both times he died before he had a chance to establish.

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Thank you everyone. :) Elemire, I got a couple of blooms on mine the first year so maybe you will also. It was just a bareroot from Pickering last spring too. Stasi, it's a Hybrid Perpetual. Gets a little blackspot for me but not enough to spray for and keeps its leaves. Aren't the blooms the cat's meow?!! Here is the link on HelpMeFind that'll tell you more with lots of pics: http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.531. Lovemysheltie, it was planted last spring as a bareroot from Pickering. I was pretty surprised myself at how it's shot up. It's grafted onto multiflora. I don't know if that makes a difference or not.

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Baronne Prevost could probably be trained on a pillar but it is fiercely prickly - the big, pointed kinds - I would not want to be the one to tie it up! We have Mme Joseph Schwarz growing in almost total shade in the Sacramento cemetery where it stays clean and blooms. I'm pretty sure it's a sport of Duchesse de Brabant since it sometimes throws pink flowers, but it performs much better. DdB gets mildew here, too, although our summer heat discourages it so the mildew is spring and fall. I heard a European speaker (don't remember who) extoll Mme Joseph Schwatz's virtues as a much superior plant to DdB, and that's been my experience too. Some teas are big. Some are huge. Mrs. Dudley Cross is in that category. Mme Antoine Mari is the closest to a moderate-sized tea that I've encountered but even that is building in our garden. Anita

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Glad to see pictures of the Baron. I've always assumed he'd look something like cabbage but yours is really beautiful and I'm just amazed you can find ANY time to garden while in nursing school. My daughter-in-law just completed it and it was grueling! You should be very proud of yourself for your accomplishments! Gibsongirl, that button eyes just melts every part of my being! I recently became interested in historic iris also as I have many old varieties that I couldn't identify. I am in the Guardian Garden program as of a few months ago. Will be exciting to participate in the saving and sharing of iris varieties.

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13 years ago

No rust or powdery mildew. Plenty of blackspot.

jerijen

13 years ago

Well, out here, Francis (Barcelona, HT) had mildew problems.

Baron Girod de l'Ain had mildew problems AND rusted.

If you're going to try Barcelona, it can be a weakling on its own roots, but is reportedly pretty vigorous budded.
I have been tempted to try see if Burlington Rose Nursery buds it.

Jeri

mashamcl

13 years ago

Diseases aside, FD has stronger fragrance and reblooms better for me. The Baron has more unusual blooms and needs more attention to pruning/training. Mine is grafted on multiflora. I view my Baron more as a curiosity rose, but it is a keeper for me. Cant' choose one, sorry:-)

Masha

cweathersby

13 years ago

I don't have both, but FD is one of those roses I would grow no matter what, for fragrance alone.

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13 years ago

Surprised that Baron is more winter hardy. HMF calls Francis D down to zone 4b. Baron is listed as 6b. Is this completely inaccurate?

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13 years ago

redsox

It's hard to argue against the experts, but here the Baron often has no frost damage after winter, and FD allways has. I don't know if that's the case every where. I wonder how long FD lives in zone 4b?

sabalmatt_tejas

13 years ago

I am growing Barcelona on it's own roots and it is not vigorous. It was blackspot prone for me (growing in ground) and the beautiful, dark blooms are quickly cooked in TX sun. I love the fragrance and grow it in a large pot so I can move to a half sun location. I still wouldn't be without it.

michaelg

13 years ago

My ownroot Barcelona has plenty of vigor--6' tall with lots of branching and nearly constant bloom. It is cane-hardy to 6 F (coldest we've had in recent years). It's true that flowers don't last in hot sun, but otherwise this has been an excellent rose for me..

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