Great responses everyone, i really appreciate all of the wonderful input! Im looking to plant a grouping of three DA Golden Celebration roses on the south side of our house this spring. The Golden Celebration is supposed to be one of the hardier DA roses and we like many of its attributes. Sounds like it's a wash on own root vs grafted. I might be more inclined to choose a grafted rose because of our shorter growing season but it sounds like an own root, once established, will be just as large. Ive never ordered from Chamblees so that might be a first for me, sounds like a lot of positive feedback too! So if i plan on ordering from Chamblees, i might get more then one cutting per pot? Do i have to divide those then? As i mentioned prior, im looking to do a grouping of three Golden Celebrations to create more of a "bush" appearance. Predfern: Yes i do have a couple of Buck Roses! Last year was my first year planting roses and we decided upon two Buck Roses (Hawkeye Belle and Prairie Star), a hybrid tea Peace Rose, and a Easy Elegance Grandma's Blessing rose. I look forward to see how they made it through the winter after i take the winter protection off.

I grew dozens at one point, but the only one worth of hoot is still crocus rose. I still get a small smattering of bloom on mary rose, abe darby and heritage. gone are a long list of middle aged ones, jude, sceptered ise, sharifa asma, Geoff Hamilton ect ect.. tried a lot of that time frame, most just couldn't hack it, as I tried growing on own roots, a pretty big no no here in the northeast if trying to grow marginal roses. OF ALL the austins I have grown (which included many fragrant ones people have already listed) Abe was always my favorite, Abe is a very unique fruit blend, some compare it to a wine and rose smell, I said it always smelled like grapefruit and roses to my nose. It doesn't quite compare to the best of the antiques to me, but if I had to pick one rose that was a modern to grow for fragrance it would still be Abe.. Below is crocus rose about 50% winter dieback here.. so not 100% sure in z4 it would be terrific honestly, I like crocus smell, its a mild tea scent actually. But if you cannot smell that, then it would do you any good. Some people cant.

I've never seen anything quite like Aloha, but having been so impressed by the many Aloha plants I have seen that are probably 30-45 years old, I have read what I can about it's relatives. I don't think any of it's offspring quite compare, but look here at a list of other 1st generation New DAwn seedlings: http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?grpLst=1.2.3.4.5.6.7.8.9.10&grpLst=1.2.3.4.5.6.7.8.9.10&l=1.4460&tab=21&lstTyp=256&grp%5B1%5D=1 maybe I can just copy the list, but if you want to see the photos, either try the link or find New Dawn on helpmefind and look at the first generation descendents. They also have 2nd, 3rd, etc generation lists. Actually, some of these are 2nd generation, as you will see if you look them up. 32-9201 (Boerner) Aëlita Aloha (LCl, Boerner, 1949) Armada ® Autumn Bouquet Awakening Bantry Bay ® Beverly Jayne Blossom Time Blossomtime Cadenza Casa Blanca (large flowered climber, Sima 1968) Cherryade City of London ® Coral Satin Dawning, Cl. Don Juan Etude (climber, Gregory, 1965) Ãtendard Ãtude (climber, Gregory, 1965) Fair Eva Flore MacLeod Fresh Snow Hagoromo Hon. Lady Lindsay Honorable Lady Lindsay Honorine Lady Lindsay Inspiration (climber, Jacobus, 1946) Isabella Cara Katie Kookaburra Kyson Lichterloh Marie Helene Mentor Miss Liberty (climber, Boerner, 1956) Morning Dawn Morning Jewel NDCG-1 (Rob Byrnes) NDCG-2 (Rob Byrnes) New Dawn Red New Dawn Rouge New Dawn White New Dawn x Amber Queen New Dawn x Amber Queen #3 Ohio Belle Parade (climber, Boerner, 1953) Pearl Drift Penny Lane (climber, Harkness, 1998) Pink Cloud (climber, Boerner, 1952) Pink Perpétué Pretty Pink (climber, Patterson, 1968) Probuzeni Probuzení Red Dawn Red New Dawn Repens Meidiland Rhonda Rosemary Eddie Rosy Mantle Rylona Sara May Price Shin-Setsu Summer Sunrise Summer Sunset (shrub, A. Beales, 1994) Tantalizing Mary Tricia Trinity Fair Vogelpark Walsrode  (shrub, Kordes 1988) Weisse New Dawn White Cockade White Dawn ® White New Dawn Looks like Parade, Blossomtime, Rhonda, Autumn Bouquet have some similarities. I originally ID'd the old Alohas in the area by simply taking an old blossom apart. Not many roses have 65 petals. Donna

WOW!! Thanks a bunch Celeste. Those are the best pics I have ever seen of Mayor of Casterbridge to date.....The blooms are amazing.....a very strongly supported cup with tufts of exterior petals outside the cup and moderately and artistically packed interior petals. The contrasting button eye fits it well. My one question about MOC was whether or not the blooms were large enough, but going from the proportion of the blooms in comparison to your hand, they look HUGE. How large would you say MOC's blooms are? I have only heard a few vague reports that they were small, although like yourself, I have heard so little about Mayor of Casterbridge. I was only going to get 1 pink.....but now I have to kill one of the children and choose between Pretty Jessica, Mayor of Casterbridge, and the other pinks. I have a feeling I might end up getting 2 of the pinks....which would still make the decision terribly difficult. After 3 days of viewing and researching, I have only decided on a white in winchester cathedral. :) I'm still looking over yellows at the moment and my top 2 so far are Golden Celebration and Charlotte, although I would have probably chosen Charles Darwin as it has big cup shaped blooms, but it doesn't look as if Roses Unlimited carries him. That is going to be a toughy decision there. Happy Child is still a possibility as well, although it's a little more lemony color rather than a yellow that I am leaning more towards at the moment. Grace is a unique Austin. The bloom form is unique from the others. I havn't looked at the apricots much yet, so it's hard saying off hand which ones I am seriously considering. I know I saw Carding Mill and really enjoyed it's appearance or substituting it for an orange blend like Lady Emma Hamilton.....or going off the wall and choosing The Alnwick Rose...although I've heard the blooms are quite small. Still have a lot of research to do on Apricots, Oranges, and Alnwick itself. I still have to choose on one of the "reds" too yet. :) At least I have Evelyn and Winchester Cathedral down though....assuming they still have them in stock.