With a heavy load like that when you lost your biofilter you are going to go through a bad cycle. Now enough bacteria has to grow to support 8 fish in 35 gallons. Get a nitrite nitrate test kit and use it every day. You mentioned the ammonia reading was zero that is good maybe you did not lose much of your ammonia reducing bacteria but it is the nitrite bacteria that you do have to worry about. It can kill just like ammonia. You may even have to do fifty percent water changes daily for awhile to keep your fish from crashing. They are crashing right now feeling the high nitrites. I just started a 125 gallon indoor pond and I used stability bacteria and a living nitrite distroying bacteria found in the refrigerator of your pet store. Sorry can not remember its name.Place all the bacteria you buy into the filter directly not the water you want to seed your filter and increase the air supply in the tank. Unfortunatly it is the nitrite eating bacteria that grows so slow and is so fragile. Very dependant on air. It took twenty days to cycle my pond, and I added some living matter from another tank I had. Durning the time my nitrites went to 3 to 4 ppm I was doing a few 50 % water changes and always every day changes which will slow down your cycle but your fish will live. Add Aquarium salt three tablespoons for every 5 gallons. Get all plants out of the tank salt will kill your plants. Do not medicate your fish it will kill off your biofilter. salt is the best medication you could give your fish that and good water should heal fish and will keep them from suffering from the nitites. Increase salt slowly you will want to add only one tablespoon for five gallons wait a day then add another tablespoon for five gallons and wait a day then add another tablespoon for five gallons till your have a total of three tablespoons for five gallons of water . You are increasing the salt slowly so as to not shock your fish. this dosage will not harm your fish it is the 3% they use when fish are very sick. I used 3% in my pond durning my cycle. Keep in mind I got a high nitrite reading durning my cycle just by having three 4 inch goldfish in 125 gallons. You are going to go through a terrible cycle due to fish overload. I lost one of my three ( a blue lionhead) due to nitrites Not even the salt protected him some fish are more susceptible then others. He was having rapid gill movement and sitting on bottom of pond. Professional goldfish breeders say that 30 gallons of water for each adult goldfish is not tooo much . That is why right now I have three goldfish 4 inches each in my 125 gallon pond and that is all I intend to have. They will get big have plenty of room to grow and I should not have any problems with water chemicals. Remember every time you do a water change you will have to add back the salt you are taking out say you add five gallons to the tank then you will need to add back three tablespoons of salt. Salt does not evaporate out of the tank so only water changes remove it. Measure it out exactly too much salt will kill your fish. 3% salt is very healing... I do not fear salt as much as all the over the counter fish medicines they often kill the fish and in terrible ways. The salt also will kill any parasites too.

They are super cute and like everyone says lighting doesn't have to be forever, you can always change your mind in a few years. The only thing I would double check b/c this is a big pet peeve of mine (perhaps I am just overly sensitive to light) is that you are not bothers by the blub light peeking out at any point on the pendant -if people are going to sit below it are they going to get "bulb eye". I am not singling out these pendants I think it is something people should think about for all pendant lights. I cannot handle sitting at my mom's island because the dang bulbs hang below her pendant glass and give me bulb eye every time. lol.

Now Jakuvall finds it "curious" that I made no mention the construction that would normally accompany a kitchen remodel. He says it's "odd" that I didn't post photos. These continuing insinuation are just plain...yucky. And they're all over this thread. My question: Is this some kind of kitchen designer technique? Just for the record, yes Jakuvall, there was construction. We took the room down to the studs. No problem with that part of the project. I loved my contractor. So I guess I didn't think to bring it up in this context. I haven't posted photos because I'm of two minds about putting stuff up on the internet that floats out there forever. Call me crazy, if you like. Not sure how many people would characterize my ambivalence as "odd." My takeaway from this thread is that the immaturity, the lack of professionalism, that I encountered with my KD, may be more rule than exception. Not surprising, perhaps, for an unregulated business with such inherent conflicts-of-interest. Anyway, moving on, for the record, Jakuvall.. 1) You write: "...the KD (all KD's) is made out to be a snake because he did NOT upsell the client." FALSE. I said no such thing. I said I was led to believe I had paid for cabinets that were made of one kind of material (wood) when, in fact, they were made of another kind of material (particleboard). I was not willing to spend $20k for kitchen cabinets made of particleboard. Had I known they were made of particleboard, I would not have placed the order. 2) You write: "Then the client buys a different brand made from particle board then returns to the forum to ridicule KD's as a group." My post from Feb 8, 9:07, I think, speaks for itself. To clarify, when I understood the cost differential between plywood and particle board and investigated further, I decided to go with particle board AT THE RIGHT PRICE and with superior build quality. live_wire_oak, I know, characterized this as "interesting" (again, in an insinuating manner) but, for the life of me, I don't know why the iterative nature of self-education--especially self-education in the middle of, yes, a construction project--is so difficult to comprehend. 3) You write: "There appears to be a legitimate issue with the interior fit and finish. How many cabinets? how severe? photos? was it even available to the original KD to rectify the situation?" Bascially all the upper cabinets. Lower cabinets were ok. Yeah it was severe. I think I spelled it out at the top of this thread (and was then accused of being a shill for someone). And, heck yes I gave the KD a chance to rectify the situation! 4) You write: "We're told that the finish was perfect but looked as if it was dipped in plastic. OK but wasn't a sample of a painted finish available prior to purchase? bought it anyway? Odd." "Odd" again! How about "newbie mistake"? How about live and learn to distinguish the difference between showroom lighting and the lighting in your kitchen? Yeah, like I said, I went into this project completely unprepared! Sloppy? Sure. Reckless? Maybe so. But how is that "odd"? 5) You write: "Better brands typically have less packing, corner protectors and shrink wrap. They are blanket wrapped on the truck by the person who will deliver them, a factory employee trained to handle cabinets. Nice thing is it allows for easier inspection, bonus is less waste." The cabinets had been abraded in shipping. There was no shrink wrap. Period. As for less waste...less material waste for them, huge time waste for me. 6) You write: "The number of hinges is dictated by cabinet height, the load rating of the hinge, and the manufacturers confidence in the ability of the door to withstand warpage. Less is better if the door can hold up. Extra hinges interfere with shelf placement. No mfg would save a few dollars on a cabinet with a lifetime warranty to risk later failure." Ok, this is now out of my depth. My contractor, who's a genius as far as I can tell, disagrees. He says the construction is inferior. You say it's not. I'm the guy in the middle. Tell you what, though. Since you've essentially agreed that your goal here is to delegitimize my experience, I guess I have no choice but to disregard your stated opinions, since the motive behind them is, by you own admission (it seems), suspect. And that gets to the heart of the KD dilemma. KDs, as a group, should not be trusted because there is no universal ethical standard guiding their behavior. In other words, it's a crap shoot. And that's the only reason I'm now responding to this thread: To protect people like me...from people like you.

This is humorous looking back, but mean none-the-less. When I was about five, the plastic trolls with the wild hair were making their first go-around as a popular toy. We had some, and my brother was about 3. I told him they had magical powers, and they were my friends, and if he didn't do what I said, we would make him disappear and never bring him back. I went on to say that there was a witch in the car, same deal. And then I even went on to start in with magical incantations a couple of time if he wasn't scared enough. First my parents were frustrated as to why my brother suddenly became terrified of the Chevy station wagon, and no amount of logic could convince him otherwise. Because you see, only I could communicate with the witch, not Mom and Dad. Then, one bedtime, when Mom was trying to figure out why he was so upset and scared, he spilled all the beans. She stormed into my room, and was pretty darn upset, rightfully so. I was so focused on getting what I wanted from my little brother, I didn't think about how I was scaring him and making his life miserable, not to mention lying and taking unfair advantage of someone younger than me. Once it dawned on me, even at five, I felt horrible, horrible. And every time I think about that story, I want to go back in time and smack myself upside the head!