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Surging Problems, can't figure it out

14 years ago

I recently got a Murray 38600C Lawn Tractor given to me by my father. It has a Tecumseh OVXL120 engine with a Series 4 Carb. My Dad had gotten it from a friend about 8 years ago who said that it ran great but had electrical problems.

Well I went through and rewired the whole thing, cleaned the carb and got it running again. However, it surges quite a bit both at idle and full throttle, but when the blades are engaged the surging goes away. I tried to adjust the carb to fix this but that didn't work.

Next I rebuilt the carb, replaced the spark plug (the electrode was black but not wet) and air filter. It seems to start really well now, but I still can't fix the surging problem. Overall it runs solidly at idle and full throttle and doesn't kill, but just surges up and down unless the blades are engaged.

If I adjust the idle speed screw (not the idle mixture screw) high enough the surging stops, but at that point the engine is running too fast and idle and full throttle become the same speed.

I can see the governor moving back and forth while the surging is going on, but I believe the governor is working properly because if I hold it closed the engine races and if I hold it open the engine wants to stall.

I'm not sure what to try next. A few things I've thought of that might be the cause:

1. Air leak between the carb and cylinder head. The gaskets look fine here but I just re-used the old ones instead of replacing them. Is there any way I can tell where/if there is a leak?

2. Idle mixture jet dirty. When I was cleaning the carb out I just made sure that when I blew carb cleaner through this hole that it came back out in the float bowl, but maybe I missed something?

3. Dirt behind welch plug on carb body. I replaced the welch plug in the float bowl but I skipped replacing the welch plug on the outside of the carburetor. I'm not sure what is behind there, but could that be causing the problem?

Ultimately I know that most of these problems are related to a dirty carb. Usually I just clean carbs with a spray cleaner and that is enough, but I suppose since this carb is over 20 years old (it's an 89 model) it might help to soak the entire carb in carb cleaner solution.

Perhaps I shouldn't even be worrying about this at all? Is there anything bad that could happen (other than just being annoying) by just letting the engine surge?

Sorry for all of the information, but I wanted to make sure that I listed everything.

Thanks in advance

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