Thanks everybody! I'm pretty tickled as these are my first roses. The trellis' are 3/8" thick steel and they are the scrap pieces left when smaller squares of steel plate were cut from it. I have a local metal worker who after paying the bills with boring stuff is a found object artist and he had the pieces lying around. He simply welded the side rails on them and we stuck them over 3 feet deep into the ground. They are about 8" from the wall which it concrete hardi-board. So it's about as sturdy and indestructible as you can make something. I hope. If anybody is in the area (Mid TN) I'd be happy to send you his contact--these are one of a kinds but he's brilliant, creative and pretty affordable. The roses are now about 7'. I have almost 35 feet from side to side for them to spread, 12 feet from the ground to the top of the roofs and the range for them I've read is 10-20 feet. Surely that's enough space? If it isn't and I'm lucky enough that the RRD doesn't get them first I guess I'll chalk it up to a learning experience and whack her back! So my plan will be to let the big new canes work themselves on up toward the roofs, let the older canes fill out the top of the trellis and keep tucking the strays back on to the trellis. Perfect. Fortunately the doors are not heavy traffic ones so maybe we can keep the shredded clothes to a minimum. She does have some serious thorns and a bit of an attitude! ;-) Any suggestions for gloves? Thanks to everybody here. I'd have never figured out any of this without the pointers and advice. I've got 8 bands in pots out in the kitchen garden so I'm counting on you!!

I put one in about the same time but it was a potted bush from antique rose emporium and it has had bloomes. Now the flowers were really small and so far I have new canes about three feet long but really small in diameter. I have found that the first year you plant a rose bush you should not expect much. The bush has to establish a root system before it can do much of anything and bare root bushes will take time to do so. I prefer bare root bushes myself and exoect the first season to be slim. If you are getting good growth that's all you can expect. Next season should be much better and the third season should be great. ND is a really good bush. I have a white dawn that's about 6 or 7 years old and it has 5 good blooming cycles a year. All I do is feed it and deadhead it and it keeps on blooming. New Dawn should do the same.

Matt- Do I remember correctly that it was you who posted a picture of yourself enjoying a beer in another thread? I remember it because it actually made me laugh. I have told my friend who isn't a gardener that no drink ever tastes as good as the one you have after you have been working in the yard all day and you sit back to survey your progress (OK, a beer at a Cubs game is pretty good too). I ordered my New Dawn from RU as well... Awakening is a possibility, it would balance the color on each side of the front of the house. I was thinking white because I planted a Moondance and a Huldine clematis near this area and I was going to continue the sweep of white. Hmmm... I feel like I need a drink already. Thanks Matt. Gilli- I will keep you posted, Matt is corrupting my plans. :)

I would be concerned that New Dawn would overload and smother the cherry tree with a dozen 10-15' canes within a few years. Vigorous climbers grow much faster than trees.