I don't know what it is, but it's not a gallica. The leafs are coarser on gallias. Does it flower a few weeks and then not until next year, or does it form new buds after first flush?

This rose is not remontant.

Hmm, I did think it was a gallica as the leaves do look somewhat like Rosa Mundi, which is right next to it (you can see on the left). I was comparing this rose to my damasks and portlands, but this rose is different as the stems hold the bloom well above the foliage. Searching HMF, it seems to look a lot like "Portland from Glendora" but it may be too short (about 4 feet) and has no rebloom.

I gave to suckers to some forum friends last Fall - does anyone remember - Connie? Robert? Nick?

I think it's a hybrid perpetual, but I don't know which one. The flower doesn't look like the Portland from Glendora to me.

(I had it on my mental to-do list to ask you about this rose when you're here in a couple of weeks. What perfect timing.)

The one you gave me last year isn't blooming. It continued to live in its pot (for a variety of very good reasons), and it's just now planted in its permanent home in the Rose Field.

It definitely doesn't look like Glendora. Is this the only flower photo you have? The bull-nose folded-over center reminds me of what Paul Neyron does quite often, but we know your rose is not PN. Not remontent ... hmmmm. I'll forward your photos to a friend and see what he says.

Connie

Leafs and growth makes me think of bourbons, very much like Great Western and Mme Lauriol de Barny, but I cannot think of anything with that flower. Are there a few hips in fall?

I though this looked familiar yesterday and it dawned on me today that it looks like something I found on an old farm here in NE Pennsylvania. I have not yet gotten an ID but the experts I've asked think Bourbon seems likely. This is also once-blooming in my area.

Here is a link that might be useful: Thompson Stone Wall Rose

This rose suckers, doesn't it?

Connie

I was told that this rose suckers wildly so I didn't question that it was a gallica (not that I'm an expert!) Do HPs and bourbons sucker?

Belmont - our roses do look similar, but your seems to have a bit of lilac colouring? Mine doesn't, now.

I'm not sure how tall it was, as the person I received it from used a hedge trimmer to mow the patch down to about 2-3 feet, so I also don't know about hips. I will try to ask her.

It just started blooming so I can get some more pictures. Also I will be seeing Nick at Heritage Rosarium.

Thanks for all the responses so far
Maureen

Yes, mine does have a violet cast. I didn't think it came through in the photos.

Mine is about 6x6. Suckers a bit but not crazily like a Gallica.

So I guess mine is different from yours but I'll be curious to see what yours turns out to be.

I would be very interested as well - my daughter has a rose that we transplanted from an abandoned neighborhood house - I suspect it had been there for decades as the little lady who lived there had been - we have always called it Sister Annie's rose because we don't know who she is - she blooms only once, profusely, highly sweetly perfumed. She will grow to at least six or more feet if we can keep daughter's husband the control freak away from her as he tends to chop all greenery to the ground from time to time. This rose does best in sun but she also has one in part shade that manages well - a spot or two on the leaves at times but generally clean as a pin. She does sucker although it appears not madly although her proximity to the lawn may interfere with that process. This rose has never been fed or sprayed and yet is as healthy a specimen as I have ever seen.

I don't know how to post pictures here - but the only one I have is of the bloom only - no buds - and some foliage - which is strikingly like the rose that is the subject of this thread - color appears identical - perhaps a few less petals but I suspect not as the rose in my picture is totally open and you can see a glimpse of the center.

I grow a number of Bourbons and she looks nothing like them - she is most like in foliage on my one Portland and even more like my lone Gallica - I had suspected that she was in fact a Gallica, but am certainly no expert.

I have transplanted a sucker into my garden that I brought back from Nashville two weeks ago and next year hopefully I will be more intimately acquainted with her - but she is a lovely, carefree rose that recalls the roses of my childhood to my eye and to my nose.

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Well, I have returned from a visit to Heritage Rosarium where Nick identified it as Shailer's Provence. It is identical to his! I have read that this rose is found all over the place?

Connie, I was looking at the pictures of it on your blog and remembering that yours seemed bluer than this one. Perhaps mine is so "plain pink" because it just started blooming?? (as has Nick's).

Maureen, my Shailer's Provence is just now finishing. It is one of the first roses in my (and Robert's) garden to start to open flowers.

SP is found all over ... mine was rescued from an old house destined for demolition. Now I have to go outside and compare yours to mine to see if they're the same. I'm thinking they're not ... but I'll go check. (Mine opens a med/deep pink and fades to a sort of bluish lilac pink.)

Connie