My apologies everyone. I posted the question, then promptly left town unexpectedly, and didn't log in again until just now. I live in Zone 5 (sometimes 4.5), Salt Lake City. I will consider those climbers recommended, but still wonder if any of you are growing Social Climber -- and, if so, do you recommend it? Unfortunately, I "fell" for Q E a couple of years ago. I wonder why the ARS rates it so highly. Does anyone know? Thanks so much for all your help. Experience really IS the best teacher, IMO, when growing roses, and that's why I go to the real experts: you home growers.

For those northern gardens wishing for such beauty. There is the Arborose Collection from Kordes . They have excellent repeat and great disease resistance. Most have fragrance. Even thou Westerland is a Kordes rose. It had no live cane after winter here. I grew it as a large shrub. The AC has soft flexible canes that make it easy to use as a pillar rose. They don't have one in that gorgeous color yet. Soon I hope!

My favorite light coral is Comtesse de Provence. It's very vigorous, blooms alot, blooms are huge, beautiful and have an intense fruity fragrance. I used to have Sonia but didn't like the color where I had it. I think I'll try it again because it was a great bloomer. I like Comtesse du Cayla for a big shrub but it's fairly tender. Camelot is a very pretty coral. Honeysweet is a good coral/pink blend that blooms a lot and has a strong fragrance. Gets more bs than some other Bucks. Honeysweet:

We just are not a very GardenWeb pretrade bunch we just seem to show up and have fun. We have 18 RSVP's to the evite and about 10 more that I know are planning to come. It's just about 12 days until the swap. Here is the usual info and map link. Here is the basic outline for our swap. The swap usually starts at 9am sharp and we usually do door prizes and a potluck lunch around noon(or before if we get hungry!). It's usually all over by 1:30 depending on weather and how many people come. As for what to bring, the options are wide open. Plants of course, either divisions of your perennials, or cuttings you started or seeds you collected and labeled. Sometimes people bring whole plants they decided they didn't like anymore or didn't have room for. Also, if making new plants is not your thing, you can bring gardening related items, books, terra cotta pots, tools, etc... People are generally very generous and eager to make newbies feel welcome so there are no hard and fast rules about what you can bring. Also, most gardeners just don't want to take any of their own stuff back home so they are often not expecting an "even trade". Please do not take an item from someone's area without asking. A good idea is to bring an extra box to put under your table for the plants you have swapped and are taking home. Items under the tables are off limits. Also, we do have a donation jar if you want to help with the pavilion rental fee. There is also a list of things you may find useful to bring: camp chair or stool card table (there are no tables provided at the Buda pavilion) extra plant labels and marker extra plastic pots - usually someone needs these plastic bags for transporting goodies plastic nursery trays for transporting goodies gardening item to donate for door prize (optional) Your favorite food or drink for the potluck. Drinking water rain jacket (for some reason our swap usually causes a shower! Here is a link that might be useful: Buda City Park