I ordered to many, but it will be alright. I will say what I've just received from Burlington looking awesome! Smith parish denise cassegrain lullaby margo's baby mrs. charles bell mrs. herbert stevens souv. de brod sunshine tip top yvonne rabier calpoly carmela gourmet popcorn grace seward scarlet moss stars and stripes x-rated capitaine basroger mme. abel chatney mutabilis If anyone would like to comment on how any of these do for you I would love top hear it! High Country roses Minnie Pearl Mountain Mignonette Goethe Ferdinand Pichard Varieta di Bologna Hope everyone's orders are doing well!!! Still to receive From Linda at Long Ago roses I will be receiving next month or so Cardinal de Richelieu Indigo William Lobb Henri Martin Rogue Valley, which I believe ships out next week Duchesse de Montebello Louis Gimard Dainty Bess Pandemonium Plus my mystery and free rose which I chose Incantation a Paul Barden rose. I also have three coming from Roses Unlimited, maybe more, if I have the resource's to order more, she's rooting two for me, and one wouldn't be ready until August. They were: Occhi di Fata Edith de Murat ( ready in August) and for the life of me I can't remember the name of the other I will have to call :)

Fascinating to read in the article you linked to, Anna-Lyssa, how researchers scientifically measure the scents within and around flowers. The variations in results referred to suggest to me that the variations that rose growers report in how they experience a particular rose's scent may not be always necessarily due to different clones of the plant or to differences in the person's capacity to smell, but to external factors too, such as regional differences, including the effect of different soils, climates and microclimates and other very specific localised conditions. Maybe this is related to the concept of 'terroir' in wine grape growing, where the flavour of a finished single-variety wine can be greatly influenced by the soil and location in which the vines grew; even whether they were on, for example, the southern slope or the eastern flat of one particular field!

Thank you for the ideas Gean and Zaphod Gean, do you have some more early HT you like? I have the ones you listed to do some research on. Zaphod, that is pretty, I will be looking in to her as well. Hoovb, thanks for the heads up on that one. I made my list up from previous threads with peoples favorite roses. But of course, they will do differently in different areas. But I already have the DA queen of nasty on stick, her blooms are wonderful and smell fabulous when the weather is right, but the rest of the time YUCK. My love/hate rose, Janet. There is a 'Souvenir de Pierre Notting' in the rose garden at the mission, I guess I need to stop in more often and check out how it looks. thanks all!

The Victorian style of gardening was dead, dead, dead right around 1900. It survived in public parks and railroad stations but most people had come to dislike it intensely. One of its chief features was the bedding-out of annuals, both flowering and foliage plants. I am now seeing some of these foliage plants, like coleus, so popular in the 1800s, popular again. Huge foliage plants such as cannas were also big with the Victorians and scorned after 1900. William Robinson and Gertrude Jekyll began a revolution in English gardens. They advocated naturalistic planting styles and perennials. They also wrote books. Jekyll designed gardens for the very rich in England, never stirring from her hidden home at Munstead Wood, which I have had the great good fortune to visit. Jekyll was inspired by English cottage gardens but her gardens were planned for the upper class. Her books were very popular and well-to-do Americans bought them with enthusiasm. However, American gardeners soon found that English garden books do not translate very well in our climate. A whole new garden literature, most of it written by women gardeners, arose. These books were, I believe, the largest influence on American gardens from 1900 til WW2. They generally showed naturalistic groups of perennials in geometric beds. Borders were hugely popular, as well as the style described above, so often with a sundial at the center. Sorry for the long post!