Bayer Advanced All In One Rose and Flower Care question
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Comments (30)Well...my rose garden is mostly 4 years old. Lots of compost..manure..mulch..about year 2 I had alot of blackspot..I used wettable sulfur..once..year 3 I was busy and the garden got a bit neglected. Some granular fertilizer. This year I pruned late..and did not fertilize at all. I noticed they were doing okay so I decided to not fertilize at all. They look awesome this year. It is staggering. I do not use insecticide at all. A few times in recent years I used Neem oil..but haven't even used that in awhile. I remember this garden guy..Scott Conner..I think his name was gave a lecture on roses at a nursery. He also used very few chemicals..and he said his roses did fine. I have tried to pay attention to getting stronger roses..my Octavia Hill is in shade and my lot is shady..and she looks green and lush..not one blackspot on her..anyway I think less is more...if I get a bad spot on a rose I cut it off. Paul zimmerman (google him if you don't know who he is) says that you don't even have to remove dead blackspotted leaves from the soil. Healthy soil and strong roses is the key. But I will say my two own root Double Delights potted, look like hell. That is one weenie rose. I think our society has convinced people we need to spend all this money buying this and that for roses....See MoreHow do you apply Bayer All In One?
Comments (11)garden, I used to use the Bayer drench. It will help against black spot, but you may still need a spray if the BS pressure is high and conditions are right. If you have active BS now, I'd also spray with the Bayer disease control spray. As far as JBs go, it will kill them after then eat the leaves or flowers. It probably will not stop your buds from getting damaged a bit. I never saw the bees affected by using the drench, but I can't be sure. If there are no open flowers, then they will not come in contact with it. I have to be honest that when I used the drench, I did not have a thrip problem. I thought it was a coincidence that I started having the thrips after I stopped using the Bayer. I stopped using the drench because it became too expensive to use once I had 100+ roses. I also preferred to use the spray for disease because it works so well and I wanted to use organic fertilizers. However, since my thrip problems are SO BAD, I did decide to use the Bayer drench on a few roses that have bad problems with thrips. I don't get a lot of JBs. I did put down Milky Spore a few years ago. I'm not sure if it's that or other things, but I only get a few. And the few that I saw were dead. Not sure if that was from the drench, but I can't really think of anything else. I know you are like me, you want to be organic and do all the right things, but sometimes it's not possible. I also wish there was just a drench for bugs or BS, but there isn't. I think judicial use of the drench is fine. When I used it, I still had many bees, butterflies and other bugs. Just not thrips :)...See Morecontainer plant dosage Bayer 2In1 Systemic Rose & Flower Care
Comments (6)If you think you have a problem that requires a systemic insecticide, better to buy a product with label instructions for applying it....like the Bonide you mention. Is your goal insect control (which one), fertilizer? We don't know what you wish to accomplish. The 2 in 1 product shown on their website is imidacloprid and granular fertilizer, Bayer states it is not for use in containers. A granular type fertlizer would not be the same as the time release osmocote pellets that release small amounts of product over weeks. I use a water soluable fertilizer product for container plants, rarely mixing to the full strength of label directions, I haven't found it necessary. Here is a link that might be useful: Bayer - questions/answers/product label...See MoreBayer 'All in One' - question on amount
Comments (2)Do not use that amount in your potted roses. Post on the other rose forums have been demonstrating that to be a disaster....See Moredublinbay z6 (KS)
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