The HAF fans are hooked up to a speed controller set in the wall of the house out there. It is not connected to the greenhouse controller. They stay on 24/7 during the cold months to keep air moving inside so there are no cool spots or areas higher in humidity than elsewhere. When the temp really drops, I set them on high. The power window is set to open first if temps rise. If temp continues to rise, then the first roof vent/fan kicks on. This allows for fresh air to be drawn in. A second fan then kicks on if needed. The fogger drops the temps as well. Here's some shots of the electrical stuff. This first pic is where I got things set up for my electrician friend. Shot of the relays. I would never have figured that crap out! This is the Bartlett controller. The two green bundles hanging below are for the thermistors. The gray one to the right is for the humidistat. I didn't get a shot of the power window controller we attached to the side of the relay box. That even gave my buddy a headache getting figured out! I finally got a shot of the fogger in action. Fog on fog off! The first time this thing ever kicked on like this I had all my tools and things scattered all over the greenhouse. I'm screaming at my wife to come help me get them in before everything gets wet. Within a few moments, we couldn't see a foot in front of our face! Today was very dry out and it was kicking on a lot.

Well I love this thread...I have had peaches and cream 3 times and all 3 times it died during the winter...guess I should have taken it in and grew it all winter...maybe one of these days I will try it again..now to snowbank...I got this plant about 3 years ago..could be longer...I have babied it, pleaded with it and nothing works..it has made it through the winter all 3 years and did nothing during the summer...it would get nice new growth and then drop leaves..one year I started to get a bud around september and it was gone when I brought it in...oh well its now in the corner where I cant see it very well and maybe next year I will find another spot for it to laugh at me all summer...I have maya and it is huge....I have had 4 or 5 flushes on it all summer and adore it...wish I had tried miners gold when it was up on ebay but thought it would be as fussy as snowbanks so didnt buy it...now to Jamie..I paid big bucks for it and got it late in the summer..its still got leaves on it in the breezeway and looks ok...maybe I should bring it inside to grow all winter since I sure dont want to lose it...anyway as you can tell Im a variegated freak..my gardens are full of variegation and to have brugs that are variegated makes my heart sing..thanks to all who have posted here...Judy

Here's an idea for you: I moved the fridge closer to the DR so it's easier to grab milk or whatever else you need to grab to put on the table. It also means that anyone in the LR or DR won't have to traipse through the cooking zone to get to the fridge. The downside is that anyone coming from the FR will need to walk through the kitchen. If that's a concern, consider adding a bev fridge in the island facing the pantry. The fridge is a counter depth fridge. If you prefer a standard depth fridge, you should increase the aisle width and decrease the island's size accordingly. I moved the clean-up sink and DW to the windowless wall. That's the only wall where I put uppers. You could do uppers on each side of the range or you could enlarge the windows and bring more light into the kitchen (helps with your concerns about creating a dark kitchen). I put a prep sink in the island. I didn't realize until I drew it out and did the math, how large your island would be. You've more than enough room for a prep sink, plus it will come in handy whether you use the island for art projects (water for water colors) or for baking (water nearby to rinse sticky hands). I did not place the prep sink at the corner of the island on purpose. I wanted to keep that end clear to give you a place for putting bags of groceries carried in from the garage. There is a row of shallow (15") cabs beneath the island. Use these to store seldom used items. Or maybe kiddy art supplies. They won't object to climbing under the counter on a daily basis like us adults. ;-) The island is large enough to accommodate 5 seats. The post is at the edge of the island's counter, not part of the island, like this: [Modern Kitchen[(https://www.houzz.com/photos/modern-kitchen-ideas-phbr1-bp~t_709~s_2105) by New York Architects & Designers Bates Masi Architects LLC Or this (less beefy support, of course) [Contemporary Kitchen[(https://www.houzz.com/photos/contemporary-kitchen-ideas-phbr1-bp~t_709~s_2103) by Palo Alto Kitchen & Bath Designers European Cabinets & Design Studios Or this: [Contemporary Kitchen[(https://www.houzz.com/photos/contemporary-kitchen-ideas-phbr1-bp~t_709~s_2103) by Traverse City Kitchen & Bath Designers Bay Cabinetry & Design Studio

Patti, yes, I guess a leaky heart should be looked into. And loved your approach to the doctor! Way to go! You must be SO proud of your SIL and that whole family! That's doggoned impressive! And thrilled for your son and getting his bride-to-be back here, a little nervous about her getting in without any glitches. Exciting times for you! Does she speak Mandarin?? What part of China is she from? I just did cart seeds inside for the first time last year. It was surprisingly easy with the good help of all our smart friends here. They were even more help advising where and when and what to plant and filling the raised beds. Last year, I had no idea how to tell what I wanted in a tomato or pepper (or anything else--I'm sure you all remember my ignorance); I have learned so much from you all in the past year; and I had to laugh at Rebecca saying that she bet I wouldn't buy seed from (I don't know who it was, some big box company). And it IS true that I've become very uppity about seed companies--but it's all y'all's fault! You know it is. I didn't get started on seed-planting today, Dawn. Maybe tomorrow. We are still staying away from: church, and schools. So maybe I'll get up and begin tending the garden for God. :) I'm a little bit freaked about IT, too. I bet all of you who have only recently started all the seed-growing stuff are feeling about like I am. . . So technically, this is only my second year. But it was so easy last year, I'm not too freaked out. Mostly by the nightmares of potting up, the taking all those flats out every morning, bringing them all back in in the evenings. Too funny. It's like running an orphanage, pet shelter, daycare. Constant attention, right? I'm thrilled that in what is going into my 4th year here, I have SO many perennials, self-seeding annuals, and shrubs going. SO appreciated the additional info on drip irrigation tubing. I'm still on the edge, there. I think I will maybe NOT do it in the flower beds, cept for the cement block raised one, and the raised veggie beds. Maybe soaker hoses, though. I really don't much care about the worry over sprinklers getting leaves wet, when I remember the 20" of rain we got May into July for two years in a row. The saving money part, sure. But I have those oscillating sprinklers, so can narrow down the watering to the immediate bed being watered. That's gotta help some. HJ and Dawn both posted while I was starting on this, so had to change windows to see what they had to say. lol Liked the way you tied Rh into gardening, HJ. Very creative. And now, HJ, and I am very worried about your babies since dogs seem to be about. (Which is one of the two main reasons we won't have them--the other being times we have to go to Wy or Mn.) Amy, I had to google the car accident you mentioned. How very sad. They still haven't released the names. We only go to Wahoo Bay occasionally, because you know my distaste for traveling. It's probably 25-30 miles from our house--as you know, we're north and east of Wagoner by 10 miles; Wahoo is south and east of Wagoner by about 15. We go down there a couple times each summer. Actually, that's where GDW is going to crappie fish--a nice heated dock not too far north of Wahoo. And he is on a mission now. We got his moon jigs, his special bobbers should be showing up Tuesday, and then he just KNOWs he'll be catching all kinds of crappies. That was funny, you mentioning your Mom ears. I have them, too, with the new kitties. Speaking of them. . . . uh oh, I fear they are into their teens, full blown. Jerry's actually the troublemaker; but Tom is the dangerously funny one. They were both obsessed with getting into the pantry, because of the hole in the wall where the water lines are. But mostly because it's a shut door. If a door is shut, that's where they want to go. Garry fixed the door once (previously it shut and stayed shut, but didn't latch.) But didn't fix it good enough apparently. Last night, one of the cats came racing in here with a prize--my brand new fancy dancy fuzzy "feather duster." Score!, he thought, and you could all but see them doing "high 5's" about it. All I could do was laugh. The fuzzy part is a foot long, and then has a wood handle that's another foot long. Hysterical. So I put it back and shut the door. This morning before I was up, GDW got to witness the same thing. But so, he FIXED the door good today. The cats are so ticked off. BUT, now, I fear the cabinets are next, as Tom was interested in seeing in what was one of them when I opened it today. . . and they, of course, do not latch. You could almost see the little light bulbs going off in his head. They've been rowdy today. . . SO rowdy. So funny. They're both also SO affectionate. I plunked Tom down 4 times earlier today when he was being obnoxious and in my face (AFTER I gave him 15 minutes of uninterrupted time), and four times he jumped back instantly. But he also has been in either GDW's lap or mine every time we have sat down today.