Is there ever a BAD time to add soil conditioner?
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EM1 soil conditioner.
Comments (41)I saw on a couple forums that people had mentioned being able cultivate PNSBs from worm castings. I don't know if that applies to the majority of PNSBs or just a few. In any case, the one I'm most interested in for harvesting and culturing to inoculate a more em-1-like serum would be Rhodopseudomonas palustris, whose versatility allows it to be found in aerobic and anaerobic conditions. "The presence of photosynthetic bacteria along with the heterotrophic bacteria have been reported in various aquatic environments like Indian tropical waters (Vasavi et al., 2007), salt marshes (Bergstein et al., 1993), industrial effluents (Ramasamy et al., 1990; Merugu et al., 2008), sea water (Kobayashi,1982), sewage (Kobayashi et al., 1995), waste water (Sunita and Mitra, 1993 and Vasavi et al., 2007), hot water springs (Demchick et al., 1990), earthworm casts (Vasavi et al., 2007), paddy fields (Sasikala et al., 2004), ocean waters and aquaculture (Kappler et al.,2005), brackish lagoon (Anthony et al., 2006), and black sea (Overmann and Manske, 2006)." (PDF of Biotechnological Applications Of Purple Non Sulphur Phototrophic Bacteria: A Minireview) Maybe I won't be able to find it in a worm bin with Eisenia fetida, though... I'd just hit up a swamp, but all the swamps 'round here are frozen at the moment. Well, I don't know too much about this stuff right now anyway, so maybe I'll just do more reading and just use commercial EM-1 or LAB to compost my bokashi to feed to my worms (or freeze) for now. By the time springs rolls round, maybe I'll know enough to culture and add a few PNSBs. Btw, any good studies out there comparing the efficacy of EM-1 vs LAB for bokashi? (Only thing I seem to remember is that the PNSBs in the EM-1 consume the CO2 the LAB creates so maybe that's something significant...)...See MoreOld potting soil for conditioner
Comments (7)They're throwing it out because its done its job....and now, for the most part, its dead soil, having been robbed of what nutritional value it once had if it hadn't been further fed nutrition over the season. Don't use it for your garden....such amount would deplete your garden soil's value. Instead, compost it, add lots of other organic matter; leaves, grass clippings, stripped newspapers, some moisture, some high nitrogen lawn fertilizer, manure if you can lay your hands (shovel) on it and other organic matter to put back into it some value of richness. I cant see why anyone would throw out soil--even which has been used up....one can always throw it on a lawn. I have no idea just what volume is coming your way....but remember when adding to your compost....too much of what might be good stuff is still TOO MUCH...so add it according to what other stuff you are adding so you don't drown out the balance. It'd be a bit hard now to add clippings....and probably too leaves will be a problem. What you cant use, bag up, use it as you add the other stuff....See MoreMulch from coffee grounds?; free soil conditioners?
Comments (6)I dump everything, filter and all.. it adds to the compost.... even old newspapers shredded a bit, egg shells, apple scraps, everything except meat , or bones.. it's amazing how fasr ir all turns to rich soil, I keep an old shovel in the garden, and cover the last 'dump' with a board to keep the coons and possums from digging it up... space it all over the garden and that way all the plants can tap into it... I use an old plastic Folgers coffee-can so it doesn't rust in the sink, it has a lid, and is unobtrusive, takes me abt. 3 days to fill it and then out it goes, give it a rinse and put it back in it's corner in the sink.... works for me.... sally...See MoreWhich is a better amendment...garden soil or soil conditioner?
Comments (12)Thanks guys. I bought some of the garden soil yesterday before I read your replies but I'm returning it tomorrow and buying the soil conditioner like y'all advised. Is there a difference in the one at Lowes (Scotchman's brand I think) and the HD one (nature's helper)? I ask because the HD one comes in 1.5 cubic ft. while the other is 2 cubic feet. Just looking to get more bang for my buck. I'm going to use pine straw to mulch the bed. There are two pine trees in my front yard that are dropping needles anyway, so putting anything else down would be silly on my part. But not quite as ridiculous as dumping a truckload of gravel on the beds without any concern for the integrity of the soil or the next homeowner who has to spend many hours of back breaking tedious work to dig it all out after it has spent many years sinking into the ground! ...Sorry about the rant, can you tell how much I hate the gravel heehee. Are there any other amendments I should add? I purchased a bag of MOO-nure also for some added goodness(the store didn't have Black Kow). In case you need some info: the soil is going to be slightly rocky since I won't be able to get out all the gravel, besides that it appears to be kinda sandy on the top layer and as I dig deeper it appears more yellowish orange, almost like there could be some clay. I'm going to plant some dwarf gardenias in that area along with some tulip bulbs and some annuals for now. Thanks in advance!...See Morepaleogardener
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