Well, I have 2 rose hedges of the Dr Buck rose, Earth Song. So that's a total of 18 EarthSong bushes. The blooms do very well in our winds and rain and the plants are very sturdy and hardy.

As for non-hedges, I cannot live without Mr Lincoln. I have 2 of those and intend to plant 1 more. Just fabulous- grows really well, floriferous and beautifully perfumed blooms. It's great here in the Land of Lincoln :D I bought massive, grafted 5 gallons. Another rose I love a lot is Chicago Peace. I have 1 but I love it so much I am going to buy another.

All my Austins and Antiques are own-root. I used to grow own-root HTs but it was a horrible experience and I will never buy anything but grafted HTs anymore. I do what a lot of Midwesterners do, plant the grafted roses really deep and hope they eventually go own-root.

The only roses I have who absolutely cannot take the wind and rain are the rugosa Therese Bugnet and the OGR Autumn Damask :( but they are great roses and I couldn't do without them :)

Thank you, LMS, for your experience. I'll definitely buy a second Firefighter GRAFTED, thank you! I have Crimson Glory and Mirandy as own-roots in a pot, they are really wimpy, like 3" tall.

Chicago Peace really stood out at the rose park. Its vibrant color is truly the centerpiece. This zone 5a rose park used to have a bed of Mr. Lincoln that was the best-smelling. It's not hardy here so they replaced with Chrysler Imperial, which I don't smell anything in cool weather.

Poulsen's Rennaissance roses are astonishing. I actually have a pic of one in the allotment thread - a stonking great thing 6feet and more tall with limbs like strangler fig. Not in flower though but for an idea of the size and shape.... Phillippa is a pale blush, Sonia (which is available often in the US) is a lovely yellow (I think Cass Bernstein has a pic on her HMFpage) and Lilliana/Claire is a soft peach/apricot. They make great cutting roses too. East Anglia's howling winds don't make these roses sway even half an inch from the vertical. Phillippa will get BS late in the season though.

i am attempting a tall, but not TOO long (wide?) hedge, and have planted DA's QUEEN OF SWEDEN. three, in hopes of that. apparently it grows tall and 'skinny' so, hopefully this will shield my ten to twelve foot span with tall color.

We have a hedge of 6 Golden Celebrations (tall AND wide, in SoCal) and a shorter hedge of "Grandmother's Hat." When they both come into full bloom at the same time, it's pretty spectacular.
But none of that is probably relevant for IL gardens.

Jeri

the only rose i have more than 2 of is the little Kordes rose, Sommerwind (4) a complete workhorse which REALLY does flower continuously from May to December.

Is there any way you can plant a windbreak? You know, a line of trees (or at least several trees) that partially block prevailing winds that tend to come from a certain direction? That might be easier than locating tall roses that thrive in windy conditions.

Just a thought.

Kate

I agree with Kate's suggestion. Either plant something to break up (not stop) the wind, or perhaps put up sturdy supports and tie the roses securely to them.

Rosefolly

Thank you, Kate and Rosefolly for excellent ideas! I have windbreakers: all fenced in by the neighbors' 6 foot solid wood. I planted a hedge of over 20' tall Norway Spruce on one side, the other sides with birch trees, corkscrew willows and white pines - all up to 2-stories tall.

That cut down on the wind quite a bit, people here in windy Northern Illinois say you can't plant roses here - but it's possible. Marie Pavie stands up to the wind quite well, her first flower is on for 1 week. There's one sent by the nursery as Arthur Bell, but as it blooms it looks more like Sutter's Gold: tall, glossy dark green leaves, and laughs at both the frost and the wind here. Does this sound like Sutter's Gold? Thanks for any info. on other tall and sturdy roses.

Belinda's Dream-13
Reve D'Or--2
Crepuscule-3
Louis Phillipe-8
Quietness-3
Sombreuil-2

I found the identity of my mislabeled blushing pink/yellow rose. It's Girona, 1936 Hybrid Tea. Burlington Roses has many rare ones. This Girona has strong damask scent like my Radio Times. It has glossy dark leaves, very healthy, tall & sturdy, and withstood both strong wind and repeated frosts here.

SDLM - 3
Clotilde Soupert - 2
Sweet Chariot -2
White Pet - 2
Red Drift - 2
Peach Drift - 2
Borderer - 2
Louis Philippe - 2
Chrysler Imperial - 2
Hermosa - 3

Sherry

Here is a link that might be useful: If only sweat were irrigation...

Strawberryhill, you REALLY MUST BUY Chicago Peace. It is just sumptuous. Easily the most handsome blooms in my garden. Fat, fat, massive 6 inch blooms swirling with colors like an ice-cream cone :D Here are some photos to enable you :D It also has a variable range of colors depending on sun/shade and season. Looks like a different rose entirely depending on when you see it. Also, it is fragrant :D

In summer:

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Same bush early in the season:

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Thank you, LMS, for showing me those pictures. THEY ARE THE BEST! I have never seen Chicago Peace with that many petals before. I got to smell that baby the next time I go to the park.

The Girona hybrid tea that I got from Burlington by mistake opened today: it smelled like strong damask and Golden Celebration together, jammed pack with swirls of deep yellow petals (some pink shading). Its origin is Spain, which explains for its doing so well in my alkaline clay and alkaline water at pH 8.

Girona's scent knocked my socks off. The leaves are dark green and glossy. I suspect it's hardy since it survived several spring frosts and its sturdy stem laughs at the wind here. Chicago Peace is also very sturdy . I got to get that one to complement Girona. Thank you, LMS, for posting Chicago Peace.

I have SDLM in 3's in 4 different beds. I have 2 of Ducher together. Cramoisi Supeieur faces its CS, and I have Perle'Or in 3's, plus Caldwell Pink in 3's. I also have 3's of Penelope, and a pair of Duchesse d' Brabant. I have 2 of Thomas Affleck and 2 a red bermuda that I forgot its name. Finally I have 2 Nacdocheses, and Nagatoches. THe bright yellow and the pretty noisette. I will stop since my spelling is falling apart. Also Carefree Beauty, Belinda's Dream and louis Phillipe.

Multiples make the rose more dramatic.

Sammy

Strawberry Hill, even a tree will grow leaning with the direction of prevailing wind. I see it on street trees in a town near me. Unless you brace the roses you select, or filter the wind in some manner, they are likely to do the same.

Rosefolly

wow, that Chicago Peace is beautiful. not to steal the thread, but, i understnad (subjectively) it is the best of the peace family. hope it likes texas!!

Hi Strawberry Hill,

I grew 2 Yves Piaget in California, and loved them. I had a very hard time finding them in England, so I ended up ordering them from France... while I was at it, I've ended up with three since they were shipping in the same box anyway! They're just coming out of dormancy, but I'm really looking forward to having 3 Yves this year.

BTW, I can't comment on Scepter'd Isle in the wind, but boy, I really love that rose. Definitely one of my favourites by Austin.

Thanks for another lovely thread,
robert

When I bought my house, there were 13 azaleas in a hedge across my front porch. I took them out and replaced them with 3 Madame Antoine Mari roses, which quickly filled all that space. Some of the azaleas weren't growing very well. That's the only multiples that I have.

ilovemyroses: I only grow Peace & Chicago Peace from the Peace family and I definitely consider Chicago Peace to be better than Peace. I don't see why it shouldn't like Texas. We have very hot and humid summers here (milder than yours of course, but pretty sultry nonetheless) and being in full blazing sun all day long doesn't faze Chi Peace one bit. It's a pretty tough rose :)

I started inventorying my roses and realized I have more multiples than I thought.

I have 3 Queens of Sweden (Austin) with black irises at their feet--forming a kind of hedge in the open space between my neighbor's garage (located a bit further north) and my garage (located a bit further south).

In my front yard, to mark the dividing line between my other neighbor's front gardening strip and mine, I planted 3 Home Runs. No one misses that bright red boundary marker!

I have 7 bright yellow minis--Sweet Diana--in a hedgelike pattern also.

As I've mentioned more than once on this forum, I have 3 Molineux planted fairly close together in a triangle shape to form my 3-in-1 larger bush. It makes quite a splash that way.

In other cases of multiples, I sometimes plant several of one kind at periodic intervals in the garden, hopefully creating a kind of rhythn of color. Different colored and kinds of plants are planted near each one for greater variety with the rhythmic repeat pattern. In one cottage type bed, I did that with 3 red Eutins (floribunda) and 4 Green Ices (minis), and 2 Double Delights. In another somewhat narrow strip along side my neighbor's garage, I have a repeating pattern of 2 Mrs. John Laings, 3 Elinas, and 4 Peter Mayles. That repeating strip is quite spectacular when it is all in bloom!

Oh yes, 2 Double Knock Outs--one for front yard, the other for back yard. That way there is always something in bloom, front and back!

I think that about does it for the multiples. I like designing with them.

Kate

Your garden sounds beautiful, Kate. Mutiples look good together. I like to clump up my tulips and perennials - it looks more organized that way, and the colors really stand out. I have question about Peter Mayle - someone marked it as "not thorny" in the post "any of these stand out as thorny?" But when I checked with SteveinAustralia, he reported that his Peter Mayle GRAFTED on Dr. Huey is very thorny.

I killed 3 Knock-outs recently: 1) the own-root is least thorny, thorns are widely spaced 2) the own-root and Dr. Huey together is thorny with thorns closed together 3) the Dr. Huey only is also very thorny, thorns closed together.

When I reported that I ordered Marchesa Boccella since it's low in thorns - someone said hers is really thorny. But when I received the own-root Marchesa Boccella from Burlington Roses - it' completely smooth, I can't see any thorns.

How's the thorns on your Peter Mayle? Thank you, Kate, for any info. I don't mind when the thorns are spaced far apart, I can chop them with a scissor. Only when they are wickedly thick like Knock-out, that's when I have to use a chain-saw - LOL!

Thank you, Robert, for the great pics. of Scepter d'Isle that you posted. I'll call Chamblee to add that one to my order.

strawberry, Peter Mayle absolutely bristles with lots of SHARP prickles. Can't remember what it was grafted on (or even IF it was), but my first guess was that it probably was Dr. Huey. Then I remembered that about the time I made that bed, I was ordering a number of roses from Pickering. Don't remember for sure, but I think PIckering grafts on a multiflora--or something like that.

Sorry I can't be more specific about that. I never pay much attention to whether my roses are own root or grafted. Whatever they send me, I plant it appropriately (at least I sure hope so!).

It sure is a show-stopper rose. Thorns or not, I love its neon bright pink BIG blooms.

Kate

I have a pair of Sceptre d'Isle, and I think it would shatter quickly in the wind. Wouldn't do that one, and it grows a bit sprawly, not really hedge-like.

I too have more multiples than I realized.

Probably 5 Green Ice, a great mini I'd recommend to all, glows in the evening, hardy as heck, sprawly, so will fall over walls and act as groundcover, but NOT a climber that gets too big. A great accent.

2 Chicago Peace, Benjamin Britton, FD, SDLM, G an Auchen, Mermaid!, Tamora, M. Antoine Mari, Rosette Delizy, Graham Thomas...many more, just cause I like them and at times can't resist another!

Thank you, Kate, for the info. about Peter Mayle. I have way-too-many fruity scents, that I am intrigued by Peter Mayle's eucalytus scent. The eucalytus essence oil I bought didn't smell that good like the dried branches. I got to check Green Ice out, since Kate and ILMR both have in mutiples. Tammy posted a pic. of Eutin recently, and it was the perfect red shade.

Hi ilovemyroses: Thanks for the info. on Sceptre d'isle, too bad I already placed that one with Chamblee. Hopefully it will be shortened by zone 5a, and won't get sprawly. I plan to cut its bloom for the vase, since I only have one myrrh scent (Mary Magdalene).

What does FD stand for? Thanks for the info. on Green Ice.

strawchicago, as I am researching for a good rose for some privacy between me and the streets in my zone 5 in Indiana, I ended up here... I am wondering if you have any tips/comments or even some pics of what you ended up using. Thanks a bunch!

Roxana: Here in zone 5a, folks use Rugosa as hedge-rose & they are round & dense & bushy & drought-tolerant. I saw many Rugosa cheap as body-bags-bare root at Menards today. These have 7 to 9 tiny-leaflet pattern & lighter green leaves, and NOT 5 large leaflets like modern roses.

From the web: "Rugosa is from the Latin word “rugose,” meaning wrinkled. Rugosa leaves are textured with a fine quilting that gives the foliage depth and richness."

Rugosa are the 1st to leaf out early spring, next are Austin roses. But Austin roses don't have the dense & nice round shrubs like Rugosa. However, in zone 5, Rugosas tend to be wider than tall, and occupy lots of space.

The best TALL hedge I have seen at Chicago Botanical garden are John Cabot roses, more stunning in blooms than Rugosa, or any Austin roses:

http://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/l.php?l=2.1931&tab=1

Arching, armed with thorns / prickles. Light green foliage.
Height of 5' to 8' (150 to 245 cm). Width of up to 10' (up to 305 cm). USDA zone 2b. Very hardy.

Anne M

Northwestern Ontario, Canada, USDA Zone 2,
I have had John Cabot for over 6 years, and due to health problems, the last 4 in total neglect (no water, no weeding). Still growing, this past summer bloomed wonderfully. Completely disease free, and even the Japanese Beetles didn't bother it. In my area, I have cold (long)winters, and July/part Aug the temps can get up into the high nineties(F) with high humidity. That's the beauty of the Explorer roses - not only can they withstand cold, they also do well in heat & humidity. My roses don't get winter protection of any sort, and I use no chemicals whatsoever. I would personally recommend this rose to anyone, no matter what zone."Anne M