skip to main content

Can you force a rose out of dormancy?

11 years ago

All new newly planted bareroots have leafed out. Some even have buds. All but one, Red Masterpiece. It's been in the ground since December as they all have. Temp is now about 70F and it just sits there. The canes are still green and some very tiny red buds indicate it'e ready to grow but nothing ever happens. Any thoughts/suggestions?

Featured Answer

Jim_in_AV
Original Author

11 years ago

My patience has been rewarded! RM is waking up! My other bushes have anywhere from 12 to 50 buds each but RM had a good, long sleep and will hopefully will thrive this year.

Sort by:Oldest

Comments (7)

alameda/zone 8/East Texas
11 years ago
I read about this method a while back, tried it and it seemed to work. Put a plastic bag like a grocery bag over it, secure it so that it doesnt blow off. Water the plant well - the water will make condensation after a couple of days, like a greenhouse effect. Hard to say how long it would take, but I have had really good luck with this method. Otherwise....it will probably start leafing out when its ready, but the baggie method might help it along. Good luck!
Judith
roseblush1
11 years ago
If your rose has only been in the ground for a few months, it is busy growing roots. It will add top growth when it can move nutrients and moisture up from the roots to the top growth.

Personally, I think it's best to let the rose do it's own thing until it is truly established. You end up with a much stronger and more vigorous plant in the long run, if it likes your soil, your climate and the type of culture you give to it. Not all roses will take off a be productive immediately.

In fact, I generally do not allow my newly planted roses to bloom for the first year. I want the plant to put most of its energy into growing a good root system.

Since there are a lot of right ways to grow roses, others may disagree with the cultural practice I just mentioned.

Smiles,
Lyn
Related Discussions
Forced/Extended Dormancy...vs. Activating the Growth Cycle????
Q
Comments (5)
I'm hoping others will chime in but I can definitely tell you to store your bulb DRY....some wrap in newspaper, others just leave them in the bags, but if you introduce any additional moisture (fridges are a little moist on their own) you'll only be asking for mold and rot. Now...Frank...99% of the people who order bulbs want to plant them and get blooms in 4+ weeks for Thanksgiving and the holidays. So...these bulbs are primed to bloom. By forcing them to be dormant for too long, 1 of 2 things will happen: 1) they'll either put up the scape in the fridge or 2) they'll say "forget it" and the scape will die inside the bulb. So....since it's such a huge bulb and will no doubt give you numerous scapes, why don't you just plant it and start pampering it now?? That's what I'd do. You pay extra for a prime bulb, enjoy it! K
...See More
Has anyone here ever forced their trees into dormancy?
Q
Comments (14)
HI Mike, Like you, I live in the north (NJ). I do not know what you mean by growing in plastic. Could you elaborate, or show my the thread about this? I have had to bring my citrus inside every year. And, where I can put them, does not get ideal light, even though i have lights to help them along. So I have always had some of my citrus lose many, most or even all of their leaves at one time. But they always seemed to come back once they go outside in the spring. I bring them out, fertilize, and they grow a huge flush of leaves within 1-2 weeks! I am always amazed how quickly the leaves from the leafless citrus grow compared to the citrus that kept all their leaves during the winter. I am no pro, and in no way am I saying it is healthy for citrus to lose all of their leaves, I am just saying that for me, with my citrus that do lose all of their leaves in the winter, are always the ones that seem to jump back and grow faster than the ones that kept their leaves. I know, should not make sense. I do in a way wish that the closet method is do-able, because that would solve a lot of issues here during the winter. But, I am trying to get a greenhouse up for the first time by November, and may actually be able to greenhouse them this year!!! I was thinking of making a new post to ask about greenhouses in the North East, and how long anyone keeps their citrus in the greenhouse, all winter, or just part, etc. If I remember correctly, you have a greenhouse. But I do not want to ask questions here and get your thread off topic. So I will start a new thread soon. CHristy
...See More
bad or possible to force turmeric/ginger into/out of dormancy?
Q
Comments (4)
Thank you, Mr. Chapman. You're kind to reply. Does cool and dry mean 60F to 70F, 50F to 60F, or refrigerator cool-- low 40F, please? Is it better to store the turmeric in dirt in a pot in a baggy, or out of dirt in a baggy? This website seems to indicate refrigerator cool: http://www.thaifoodandtravel.com/ingredients/turmeric.html The fresh rhizomes store well if kept dry in the refrigerator Ã¯Â¿Â½Ã¯Â¿Â½" wipe dry if they are damp, then wrap with a paper towel before placing in a ziplock plastic bag. I once was able to keep a very fresh batch for several months; and when they turned moldy and ended up in the compost pile, I was amazed to find them sprouting into beautiful plants (with large broad leaves like hostas and white flowers like hyacinths) some time later.
...See More
Force dormancy in warm climate?
Q
Comments (0)
I've found lots of advice on what to do with hybrid tea roses that are putting out new shoots in winter ... some say to force dormancy by stripping leaves and stopping feeding, others say that modern roses don't naturally go into dormancy, they are bred to grow continuously and it's a waste of time trying to force them. So I don't know whether to continue feeding those roses putting out new growth, or to stop and take all the leaves off later in winter. They are all fairly new, planted in the last year or so. Average winter temps are about 8-18c, or 46-64F.
...See More
seil zone 6b MI
11 years ago
I've heard of the bag method too but I generally agree with Lyn. The rose will bud out when it's ready to.
roseseek
11 years ago
Don't put a plastic bag over the bush in full sun. You can EASILY cook the thing in the resulting steam. If the plant was potted and you could do it in dappled light, it would be much better, but you would be amazed how quickly it can get REALLY hot inside a sealed plastic bag in full sun. Kim
catsrose
11 years ago
It is still only March. Why would you want to force it? It will leaf out when it's ready to do so. Roses are like every other living things--individuals.
Jim_in_AV
Original Author
11 years ago
I want to thank eveyone for their input. I will let nature take it's course. My other 45 in the back are covered with buds (I counted 40 buds on the Chrysler Imperial, one of my only body bag roses) so I'll practice patience on this one.

Related Stories

DIY PROJECTS Holiday DIY: Mason Jar Forced Bulbs and Evergreen Gift Tags

Learn how to make these winter projects from the book ‘Garden Made’ by Stephanie Rose

GROUND COVERS Ground Force: 10 Top Ground Covers for Your Garden

By Carol Bucknell Garden Design

Protect your soil from weeds and drought this summer with a living mulch of ground covers

HOUSEPLANTS How to Force Amaryllis Bulbs Indoors

By creative jewish mom.com

Enjoy vibrant red blossoms even as gardens turn snowy white, by teaching this hardy repeat performer to ignore the calendar

WINTER GARDENING Pruning Secrets for Exquisite Roses

By Annie Thornton

Encourage gorgeous blooms year after year with this time-tested advice on how to prune your rosebush in winter for health and shape

LIFE How Your Landscaping Can Keep Burglars Away

Prevent home break-ins with strategic landscaping and good practices instead of menacing — and maybe less effective — measures

DECORATING GUIDES See How Wabi-Sabi Can Bring Harmony and Beauty to Your Home

By Robyn Lawrence

Create your own wabi-style style with beautifully weathered, humble materials around the house

GARDENING GUIDES Rocky Mountain Gardener's March Checklist

By Jocelyn H. Chilvers

Ride out fickle weather by forcing flowers, planning indoors and heading outside to spot blooming bulbs when you can

GARDENING GUIDES Learn the Secret to Bigger and Better Roses

By Noelle Johnson Landscape Consulting

Grow beautiful roses using both ordinary and unusual soil amendments

GARDENING GUIDES Let's Weed Out 4 Native Plant Myths

By Benjamin Vogt / Monarch Gardens

Plant wisely for a garden that supports pollinators and requires less work

LIVING ROOMS How to Decorate a Small Living Room

By Laura Gaskill

Arrange your compact living room to get the comfort, seating and style you need

Sponsored

More Discussions

Like taking candy from a baby

12

Should I cut my roses before tomorrow’s rain?

13

is this rose rosette?

7

Rose Mulch HELP

3

Rose name changes - Exhibition name vs. registration name

0