Patricia,

I've been growing it for only about a year. So far it's vigorous and disease resistant. It had a couple of flushes which were quite beautiful. The canes get rigid rather quickly. I tend to compare it to another of my other white climbers...White Cap... I think White Cap is a more graceful rose.

Robert

Patricia -

Last year was its 3rd year in my garden and it finally began throwing off some massive climbing canes. So far it has not been an abundant bloomer but the individual blooms are amazing:

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In a milder climate I would choose a climbing HT like Climbing Kaiserin Auguste Viktoria, but for cooler climates I think this is the best white climber (note for you zone 5'ers I said cool, not cold. I understand this rose has major dieback in colder zones).

George

Robert and George, thank you very much. I think I will check out Kaiserin Auguste Viktoria. I need white, more white, in my garden to "frame" the other colors.

I have a plant of this wonderful climber. It grows unfettered here in zone 6b to about 9' X 10' with blooms in Late Spring and another in the Fall. Nice fragrance and as other have said has good disease resistance - I don't spray it. I consider it an excellent repeat blooming white. Best, Nick

Nick, so yours repeats? Might I ask where you acquired yours? I think I read on ARE or maybe elsewhere that it was not much for repeat --- I apologize to ARE if it was elsewhere --- so I am thinking --- maybe there is more than one. The pictures are gorgeous and I do need big white framing the view.

Mine is a own-rootie, somewhat slow-going. That may be because it was shipped as a too-small band from Russian Roses . I had to coddle it for a few years. This may be the year it takes off.

A rebloom of somewhat smallish flowers of HT form. Not a white, say more of a cream with gentle lemon undertones. Soft fragrance. Ilse has the nice glossy leaves of a good Kordes rose. It is hardy for me if I lay the canes on the ground and cover them with wood chips.

I bought it after seeing yayah's pictures on the Rose Galllery. It was an amazing site. (Does anyone know what happened to him?)

Thank you for your response. Have no idea what happened to Yahyah. I sent several e-mails but no response. Yahyah had gorgeous roses.

I shall proceed to order it with others that have been recommended. What?!? If it does not work out, it's just money (of which I am frequently bereft)but in the end all that I need and more than I asked for are provided, and roses are amongst those necessities of which I require for my own selfish aesthetics.

Patricia, Do you have White Cap? I can't say enough about this rose. Also, if you're looking for more white...Prosperity, Moonlight, Alberic Barbier are all favorites of mine. If you are interested, I have this super tough, vigorous, disease resistant/free, climbing polyantha "type" rose that I am unable to identify. It blooms in clusters all summer...not much fragrance, but it is reliable...I can probably find a piece that has tip rooted I can send you.

Robert

Particia- I obtained cuttings from a plant at the National Cathedral here in Washington about 20 years ago. It was labeled Ilse Krohn Superior at the time. Interestingly, Beales says in his book "Roses" that it is Summer Flowering (meaning once blooming) and that its date of introduction was 1957 which is the date of introduction of Ilse Krohn. However, Ilse Krohn Superior was introduced 7 years later in 1964. Of it, Quest-Ritson says "There are few examples of a once-flowering rose producing a repeat flowering sport without a substantive change in habit from a climber to a shrub. 'New Dawn' is one example, and 'Ilse Krohn Superior' is another......For cold climates, Ilse Krohn Superior' is undoubtedly the best large-flowered white climbing rose." Even uncoddled, my plant has reliable late summer bloom about like New Dawn. Perhaps the stock that some nurseries have is Ilse Krohn which does not have reliable repeat flowering. Best, Nick

Many thanks. Yes, Robert, Lynette recommended White Cap. I had Alberic Barbier and Albertine but lost both of them with RRD. RRD goes for the big tall 'uns.

I need several in the area that I am filling in and these are all great Rx. I am going to get Ilse based on all these Rx here and Albertine and Alberic will return to my garden as well. I plan to get Ilse from Pickering, multiflora, because the area where I will plant it likes MF rootstock.

Patricianat, How are your Ilse Krohn Superior , Albertine? Did they grow fast? Do they repeat well? Thanks

...just out of interest, I thought I would post this photo of a rose I saw in a garden I visited this summer, labelled 'Ilse Krohn Superior', and obviously growing on a sheltered wall here... this rose would likely have come from Beales nursery originally... whether it repeats or not I wouldn't know... but it's a pretty white rose I must say that... be great if it did repeat...

Marlorena, Thanks for the beautiful photo! I wish mine can be like that, I planted it on one side of house yesterday, a better spot for viewing than the side of garden shed. I talked to Eva at Palatine before planting, her Albertine repeats! :-) I was so happy to hear that.

I grew Ilse for 15 years and it was the best repeat white climber that I grew. It had great bloom in September and had excellent disease resistance here in the a far Washington DC suburb. This post wants me to get it again.

Go and get another one Ogroser! :-) I bought last 2 from Palatine, I was looking for it for a while, when I found them there, I screamed out really loud. :-) Thanks for the input!

My 2 Ilse Krohn Superior are cane hardy here in zone 6a, Albertine is not, It only has 5-6" canes left now, it's not going to bloom this year since it blooms on old wood.

Patricianat, how are yours?

Oldrosarian, I ordered a White Cap after seeing your lovely photo, it will be here in a day or two. Just planted a City of York, does yours repeat for you? I hope it repeats.

Summer, you'll love White Cap.

Thanks Sheila, it looks so pretty, have to give it a try. Hope it's cane hardy here.

White Cap repeats very well in my garden.

I ordered 2 City of York to climb on two 12' tall metal towers, I am hoping to link wires between the 2 towers on top, so the 2 ramblers could meet, create a lovely rose gate in the future.

.......and ordered 2 Quadra, not sure where to plant them yet......and 1 Rural England, 1 Dancing Queen, 1 Illusion, 1 Red Eden. Do you grow these too? Would love to hear your input. :-)

Old Rosarian : thanks for your awesome pics! Going to look @ Long John Silver now... Here on the farm z5 central IL Ilsa Krohn takes blasting cold winter wind (more like z4) like a boss & repeats in September. Flowers are cream - not white - and canes take to horizontal growth on fence nicely.