Help me decide between Siberian Elm and Chinese Elm for a hedge
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Comments (8)I knew as soon as I seen this, that is was a neighbor issue, been there done that, I mentioned forsythia to you on another thread, but now that I see this I wanted to add that you ought to plant rose bushes in a row, the ones that have the largest thorns you can find, in case he tries to come any closer. we had a guy that lives diagonal from us that was standing outside of his door with a video camera, DH sees him while he was messing in the fridge (keep in mind we have a giant white pine tree, that is over our kitchen window) DH from the fridge, starts bobbing and weaving to try to see through the tree at this guy to see what he is doing and he jumped back in the house with the camera, now isn't that spooky? I hate to keep the sun out of my house, but I really think mini blinds are the best thing invented, and they are inexpensive....See MoreConsider the Other Native Elms
Comments (58)Funny to see what the real story was behind what the poster lkz5ia claimed told him to "burn down the forest" haha. As for my exotics, I have some very effective management practices in place. Anything that may be harmful to the locals (plant animal, or human)I am extremely careful with or leave out altogether. Rest assured you will never see anything about a rogue Sorbus pallescens population choking native species in upstate New York. If you have to fight nature to get anything to grow due to your prairie environment, you're in the wrong place to be doing what you're doing. In my case I found a farm that has been cultivated for nearly 300 years, complete with big north facing slope for a peach orchard and sheltered ravine for things that might not otherwise have a chance. Location, location, location. To compare my practices with yours (and most of the other folks that have participated in this thread) is absolutely ludicrous. You can't reasonably expect to come on a forum like this, flaunt a "management practice" like THAT, and not expect people to raise some concerns. Nothing I do with my planting is risky, period...but thanks for calling me a riot- and a hypocrite. I'd like to also thank you for saving me the trouble of bringing up how each region (and ecosystem) calls for different protocol. Unfortunately you just don't seem to realize that yours could not be more wrong. That is, unless you start paving over the areas as well (I almost said "or plant Ailanthus"- but you actually have done that!). Beleive it or not, this is actually a topic I have spent a large amount of time and money studying AND implementing. I tried to be quite civil in my messages, but by all means continue your name-calling and foolish posts. They are becoming amusing and a "you won't beleive what this guy is doing" type story for my coworkers and other local landowners. Anyone know the conservation status of American Elm in Iowa?...See MoreDifference between American Elm and others?
Comments (6)Last fall when I first went to the house ALL of the trees needed much care. They hadn't been pruned in decades, several were completely dead. The fruit trees were pathetic with much bark stripped off. The elms had much dead wood and needed pruning, but the leaves themselves were eaten away like little caterpillars had munched the tender parts between the veins. The only healthy, large leaves were way up on the tree, which of course I could not reach even with a tall ladder. The trees are not vase-shaped like Valley Forge elms. I would like to be proactive in spraying for whatever is eating the leaves up. I thought at first it was Japanese Beetles, but now I doubt that. It seems that Japanese Beetles have probably not even reached the Rockies yet. As soon as the trees leaf out I'll take some photos. Any idea what I should spray for and when? Thanks so much!...See MoreHelp me decide on a tree
Comments (30)Looking at your photo I'd guestimate your front yard area to be about 30' x 50'. Is this picture shot in the morning. If so then afternoon shade will come from this tree, right? I'm a big fan of Maples for fast growing. Most big shade trees will grow 50'-100' high by 40'- 60' wide. If you look at your photo you see your neighbor maybe 3 houses down with a full grown tree. That's what 1 tree will look like in 20-30 years. Across the street on the curve is what 2 or more trees will look like. My preference would be like your neighbor on your side of the road, That spacing gives you a lot more edges that are not shaded entirely by the tree. My sister lives in a neighborhood that has tons of full grown trees and her house always seems dark on the inside to me. I moved into a home that only had bushes 4 years ago I planted an Acer freemanii October Glory because of it quick early growth. I planted it from a 5 gallon pot. It was only 6' tall and now it's about 15'. I expect to get shade from it in another 10 years. Most of my work was done in California near Sacramento. Because of space expenses they grow their trees in pots. Here we have space and tree farms are the norm. I have a friend who has a tree farm that I drive by often on my way to St. Louis. He removed a line of evergreen trees that were doing poorly and replaced them with Maples. They looked to be 1 1/2" -2" size. Because of his having to water them from transplanting about 6 out of 15 died. My point is that field grown trees have their roots well away from the trunk so there's plenty of transport shock. Bigger may not be better in this case. Quercus coccinea or Scarlet Oak has beautiful fall color where the evening temps are low in fall. They are NOT as fast growing as the Maples. 60'-80' high by 40'-60' wide. What ever you do plant do yourself and the tree a favor and keep a 6' planting space. This keeps the lawn mower and string trimmer well apart. I also would plant it slightly elevated say 6" to allow for settling after transplanting. This also allows good water drainage. Remember the people who plant it do what YOU tell them if you tell they what you want....See Morebonitaapplebum
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