How to grow big roses
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Damasks.. How big do they grow..
Comments (10)Hi, JessicaBe. My apologies for the delay in replying. I've been digging through boxes trying to unearth old photos of at least one of my Ledas. No luck. Yes, I pruned her when I pretty much prune everything--late winter. I'm aware that there are all sorts of fancy rules for pruning once-bloomers (a la John Scarman and others), but unless the rose is an EARLY bloomer like Lady Banks, I prune in Feb. in PDX. The bushes seem to bloom full enough and fine enough for my eyes and nose, and they seem to flower a bit later which would help them dodge some of the hardest of the spring showers. I have yet to collect any scientific evidence for this last statement, mind you; it's just an impression. I see you're in central Ohio. The severity of the climate might call for different tactics. In Minnesota, I pruned once-bloomers after bloom time...which was really more or less the summer. I pruned hard enough to to shape the plants and give them a fighting chance against winter winds. In the autumn, I threw leaves on the soil beneath them--a radius reaching about 12 inches beyond the dripline, carefully pushed the leaves a couple of inches away from the canes, and let the snow do the rest of the insulating. My MN pruning method worked as well as my PDX method, and it more closely matches the advised way to prune albas, gallicas, and once-blooming damasks. They flower on old wood so cutting immediately after bloom allows plenty of time for building new flowering shoots. I believe that the Huntington describes this method on its website. I'd recommend it. Leda is once-flowering. Thank you for patiently waiting while I was away from the thread. Carol...See Morehow big does boule de neige grow?
Comments (5)I would have thought that the key determinant would be hours of daylight during the active growing season: we would have much longer days in summer than you (it is still light till 10 pm at the moment) but you would have a much longer active growing season. This year it was very warm and dry in April and some roses were flowering by the end of the month - which has never happened here before, as far as I know (except maybe for a few oddities such as Rosa primula). My Reine des Violettes, which was only planted as a bare-root plant in a pot in December, has been in flower ever since the end of April. My Boule de Neige has decided on vegetative growth instead - five feet in its first spring does seem bizarre....See MoreHow big does Apricot Twist grow?
Comments (1)Apricot Twist is approximately 2x2 as a 3 year old....See MoreThe Alnwick Rose - How big is yours? Pictures Please
Comments (46)That's a fun comparison: Earth Angel vs. Alnwick Castle. I have both of them also, growing across the path from each other. The similarities: They both can have cupped flowers, they both have good fragrance, and they are both upright growers that don't get much disease. The differences, whether good or bad are up to you: Flowers first. Earth Angel has mostly white flowers with a pale pink center. They are extremely susceptible to thrips damage. They remain cupped in the heat. In my garden they grow in tight clusters. They require deadheading. Alnwick Castle has pastel pink flowers solid color all the way through that are non-fading. They don't show thrips damage. They open up in the heat, showing a frilly center. They grow in looser clusters. They drop their petals when the flowers fade. AC's flowers tend to nod slightly with first flush. EA's flowers are upright. Flower size is about the same in each, about 2-1/2" in my garden. EA's flowers last 4-5 days on the bush, AC's flowers last 2-3 days. They both grow and bloom in the heat. Taken today after a month or more of temps in the 90's and humidity ranging from the single digits to 30's. Earth Angel today: Thrips! I think my Earth Angel looks best like this (first flush): Alnwick Castle today: It can open up in the heat and become more coral: I think it looks best like this (first flush): Fragrance: Earth Angel's first blooms for me smelled like a wet dog, but now has very sweetly scented flowers. It's a clean fragrance now. Alnwick Castle smells like rasberry sorbet, and at times there is a woody element to it, like cedar. There are more mid-tones and low tones in comparison to Earth Angel's mostly high notes. Both are fragrant most of the day. AC's fragrance seems stronger to me and wafts. EA's fragrance doesn't waft for me. Plant habit: both are upright growers. Thorns on both are moderate. Thorns on EA are smaller. Vigor: EA required quite a bit of pampering in my garden to get it to grow, but most people say EA is extremely vigorous. AC is quite vigorous in my garden without pampering. Productivity: EA is too young for me to say, others have described it as prolific. AC is not what you would call a prolific bloomer, but also not particularly stingy. Personally, I would replace AC if I lost it. I'm not so sure about EA....See Morejacqueline9CA
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