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lycopus, I caught that when I looked them up, I think you're right. #3 being moonseed, I was hoping for a blackberry but couldn't find foliage that matched it lol. And yes, 1 has red tendrils and new leaf stems, I will be saving that! And I found a 3rd grape on the back fence also, it matches the first pic but is growing more vigorously. Too bad it's completely tangled with Japenese honey suckle, wild morning glories, several other nasties. It's gonna be hard to get that cleaned out. Arg. I was looking to id a 5th mystery vine that I didn't post because I thought it would be easy (single lobed ovate glossy dark green foliage) and discovered that #5 is creeping charlie. Though I do have asiatic speedwell in the yard too. Ewww about the honeylocust. I really like mimosa's, I've always wanted one. But I think you're right, the leaf pattern isn't quite the same. Thank you guys so much! I will save the large leaf vines (I like the moonseed one and it's not hurting anything) and I think I'll keep the violets, they're noninvasive and remove everything else. You guys are terrific!

thanks. the stems certainly llok like the foxtail picture i found in wiki, but the flower/seed are not mature yet so i will keep an eye on it to see how it evolves -- and report back. Here is a link that might be useful:

Yellow loosestrife, Lysimachia punctata FataMorgana