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St. Patricks and Pope John Paul II Roses - where to order?

12 years ago

I tried last year (somewhat last minute, as I didn't think it would be hard to do) to order these two roses for my mom to have shipped to her for mother's day. I have them and love them and know she would, too. I had a very hard time finding them online to order (especially St. Patrick - which I love!). Any suggestions?

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TNY78
12 years ago
I have St. Ptrick on order grafted from S&W Greenhouse for Spring, but Palatine Roses also carries it (both excellent sellers & appear to still have it in stock). Roses Unlimited & Burlington carry it own root, but I've always been told a rule of thumb is to buy HT's grafted...some of the other posters may be able to shed some light on how St. Patrick grows ownroot though.

My Pope John Paul came from J&P. I bought mine grafted, but it looks like this year they're only selling it ownroot.

~Tammy
seil zone 6b MI
12 years ago
I got my PJPII at a local nursery the first year it came out but I've seen it locally since then too. HMF says Angel Gardens has it. And Burlington is supposed to have St. Pat.
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You might find Sugar Moon Grafted from a big box store. That is where I got mine. Btw, its growth habit is fairly upright if that helps with placement. Mine died back over winter, but that could have been the result of the root canker of which it eventually died. I buy for fragrance and this one is tops. My DH even made and exception for a white rose! : )) It's not as clean a white as PJP11 which I feel allows it to blend with others a bit more, and as I mentioned it has gorgeous stamens. I'll see if I can find an old pic. Actually, here is my original post with some good pics and others' comments. Ignore my placement of this rose as everything mentioned failed in this bed, but is thriving elsewhere (except SM : (( ). I eventually planted Ghislaine de Feligonde and it loves the spot. https://www.houzz.com/discussions/4113178/sugar-moon-size-and-growth-habit-sun-needs#n=12
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ken-n.ga.mts
12 years ago
Where does your mother live?? St Patrick doesn't like cold winters. I have a good friend in central FL that has several St Patricks' in 20 gal. pots grown on their own roots. Big, beautiful bushs. They rooted fairly easy for him and it took 3 years for the bushs to mature but WOW, what beautiful, full bushs they turned into.
hoovb zone 9 sunset 23
12 years ago
weeks distributes st. patrick; check their website for a local garden center that sells weeks roses.

Here is a link that might be useful: weeks where-to-buy
chicomom
Original Author
12 years ago
Hmmm...she lives in Washington state near Spokane, so might not be good to do St Patricks. It gets cold in Chico, but I don't it gets as cold as it does at her home.

I will have to try rooting it (St Patricks). It is probably my favorite rose (I am a beginner at growing so only have 7) due to the long cut flower life, low number of thorns, low number of issues, beauty of the entire plant. :)

Thanks!
dan_keil_cr Keil
12 years ago
I grow St Patrick successfully in Central Illinois.The secret is burying the budwood 6" deep in the ground. This keeps the budunion alive no matter how cold it gets.
plantloverkat north Houston - 9a
12 years ago
Northland Rosarium in Spokane carries St. Patrick own-root. You could always ask their advice regarding winter hardiness.

Here is a link that might be useful: Northland Rosarium's website
zack_lau z6 CT ARS Consulting Rosarian
12 years ago
St Patrick is well known for not surviving New England winters--its name makes it very popular around Boston. I have one in the Zone 7 part of our yard. I also planted the bud union deeply--just like Dan's.

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