The Beautiful Tea Roses. Let's Support Growing Them.
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Lets talk about Tea-Noisettes.
Comments (19)Patricia, Glorie de Dijon - Died this winter. 3 years old. Was in too much shade, but I had read that this was a rose that could tolerate some shade. It never was a strong rose, but I wasn't expecting it to die. Beautiful blooms. I want another one of these. Love that fleshy color. Rev d Or - Lived for 2 years. Grew by leaps and bounds, then one spring it leafed out and then died before blooming. I look at my roses often and the death was very sudden. One day it looked bad, within a couple of days after that it was dead. I think this happened last spring. Bouquet d Or - Bought from ARE, so it was a 2 or 3 gallon rose. I think it was bought and planted in the early fall. It didn't grow much and was dead within a year (maybe a half a year). This was 2 or 3 years ago. I also lost Sombruil the climber. It lived for 3 years then started dying back this past winter. I kind of thought it would come back from the ground this year, but no such luck. I hope this helps. I've lost some HTs to the creeping die back crud, but some of these OGRs were kind of sudden. I've got other noisettes in the same area: Jaune Desprez, MAC, and others whose names I can't remember, but they are all very much alive. .... so far....See MoreLocal Rose 'Mentor' grows these teas....
Comments (13)You might ask your mentor about the sizes of his/her teas and how old they are and is winter protection a necessity? (And the real elephant in the room question is "Is your mentor a serious exhibitor?" Serious exhibitors will often push a plant to get one good bloom to take to a rose show to win Dowager or Victorian Queen. They care not at all for growing a good garden rose that looks good most of the year. Some of the puniest roses I've seen are in such gardens where they are fed and watered to make show blooms. I expect that can be done with tea roses, but it doesn't make for long lived plants. If you have time, download Gertrude Jekyll's book "Wood and Garden: Notes and Thoughts, Practical and Critical of a working Amateur" which has a very interesting chapter towards the end titled something like "Following False Gods" that talks not about roses but about how (other) flower shows do the public no favors. There are also good chapters in there on the flowers that appear through the seasons in her gardens. I liked the download so much, I bought the book.) Here is a link that might be useful: Wood and Garden...See MoreHow to grow roses in a pot and overwinter them?
Comments (6)It's not necessarily the cold but the wind and freeze thaw cycles that kill the roses. Overwintering your potted roses in a dard unheated garage or shed will protect them. Tender roses will still experience dieback and the soil ball will freeze solid but your roses should survive OK. Did you mean tea roses or hybrid tea roses? There is an important difference. To avoid confusing us, please use the proper term so we don't have to clairify which you're talking about. If you like floribundas, by all means use them. Choose a variety that doesn't get too big or you'll require a very large pot that'll be really heavy to move into the garage. Smaller shrub roses, polyanthas, minifloras, and miniatures all make good potted plants. Water is important as many overwintered potted roses are lost to drying out. A shovel full of snow occasionally will suffice. Just don't let the soil dry out completely. I use potting soil. I like Miracle Grow or WalMart's Expert Gardener brand. The Expert Gardener has a lot of large pieces of organic material and small wood chips in it while the Miracle Grow potting soil is lighter with lots of peat moss. Both contain a slow release fertilizer so additional fertilizers are not required although I will, on occasion, mix aged horse manure with them. I add nothing for drainage as the bottom pot holes allow plenty of drainage. I water until it drains from the holes, then I know the soil is saturated. Don't use bagged garden soil as it's too heavy and will compact. I don't cut mine back until spring although really tall bushes will be shortened a little to make them easier to handle. I do all my pruning in the spring....See MoreYes, tea roses will grow in the PNW!
Comments (65)I suspect you're right, Jeri - the General seems to love water. Last year an emitter on the drip irrigation system blew off next to him, so he was treated to a flood of water. He responded by blooming and growing heavier and faster than any other rose I've seen. I'm not sure it would have been good for him in the long run, and I'm glad I eventually noticed the waste of water, but it was interesting to see his reaction to it. His petals are also thick enough to stand up to our cool temperatures and heavy rains in the spring and fall. And for those of you who have a smaller garden - like me - I can attest that he bounces back quickly (and with good form) after heavy pruning. I can't post without sharing pictures, but I apologize for my phone's inability to capture all of the subtle colors in his blooms....See Moreknightofroses
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