I've lost a few posts on the way to "submit".

I'v not experienced your problem. However, half the time when I enter the forum the sliding board to the right is abscent. Which makes navigation impossible. Strange. So I seldom post and rarely read the boards. A shame. Jeannie

I too have seen the ads, I just scroll sideways to get away from it and find the posting.

Rita; I about went into the fence head first, by trying to get in front of Oktoberfest to get a photo.it was pretty close to the fence,and trying to get in front to get a picture without stepping on one in the process,I would just come unglued if I stepped on one and broke it. This Oktoberfest is the one we decided it wasn't the right one last spring, then after it bbloomed awhile,it looked as nice as the new one you sent to replace it with. The newest one is in a pot and I can move it.It should be blooing soon, too. Nate.I never thought of that, but I think you are right..anyway, as hard as I tried,I couldn't get in front of GIllion without falling on one and breaking it or me, so side view had to do it.. Jean