Hi everyone! This thread has me a bit confused. For I planted 10 Triple Crown in back in 2020 - or at least that is what I ordered. I am in Pearland, which is about 10 miles south of Houston, so not many chill hours at all. But I get a TON of berries each year, and they are extremely vigorous. As of today, 4/25/24, a few of their berries are JUST starting to turn black, but most are still red or green. Is it possible for someeone to confirm that they look like Triple Crown? That people are having trouble getting berries off them in Houston is weird when they produce so many for me. Here are some pics: And a close up of a stem and some berries - I bagged the one that is starting to turn red/black because every year the birds (and squirels? probably the birds only) have been robbing me of 95% of the berries): Thanks!

Glenn i read the description at Nourse and I'm very excited if they are indeed zone 4 hardy. I'm already deciding where to build a 20-30 foot row with probably a few plants of each. I would be curious to know if they had a spreading habit similar to a raspberry or keep the normal compact growth at the base of blackberries. Micheal I already mowed my strawberries last weekend and plan on mulching them with leaves probably in a few weeks or when we start getting heavy frosts. Could be a while as we had 85-95 degree weather last week. But it rained yesterday and it's very cloudy so i think fall has finally come here. The only fallbearing raspberries i have are two rows of Fall Gold yellow raspberries, which I'm not too impressed with but if the yellow jackets were not so bad i could probably pick a few gallons before it frosts hard. I'm also considering not cutting the Fall Golds down to the ground this fall/winter. I may let them overwinter and just cut off the top parts that are fruiting now this winter. Or maybe just cut down one row all the way, and the other the new way. If i get a decent early crop in June/July maybe the yellow jackets won't be a problem. Also i have a row of raspberries that were labeled Caroline at my local farmer's market which had a small crop of say 2 cups this summer off the small canes that overwintered. I thought it was a summer raspberry when i bought it. I didn't realize Caroline was a fallbearing variety until i did some reading online this past couple months. But so far there have been no blossoms so I am questioning whether it was labeled wrong at the market or if it a late variety not suited for my area. I'll try to get a picture up of the canes to see if anyone can notice similarities or differences between my "Caroline" raspberries and any others who truly have this variety.

I don't live in Utah and don't grow berries but found some info for you with a quick google search: Blackberries in Utah Growing Raspberries and Blackberries in the Inland Northwest and the Intermountain West See page 20 for a table of recommended varieities. You should probably check with your cooperative extension office to see what they recommend for your county: Utah University Cooperative Extension Offices You certainly don't want to get a variety that becomes an invasive weed - ask the folks in Oregon about blackberries! I hope these links will be useful. Here is a link that might be useful: Utah Berry Grows Association Newsletter

Konrad my comment was directed at the advice in the first post by OP, not yours, sorry, it was unclear. I meant the advice that allen was given (prune red raspberries every year to 12 to 18 inches. Or mow them down) was not exactly correct. Sorry for the confusion. I have for years harvested a 2nd crop, and the fruit is wonderful, so that advice you found is incorrect. It's as good as any summer fruiting type. I say floricanes are floricanes weather from Summer or everbearing. I defy anybody to tell the difference. If you have done it, you know I'm correct. Are floricane crops no good on primocane fruiting blackberries or black raspberries? Of course not, same with everybearing raspberries. "harvesting the early summer second-year crop is difficult because of interference from new primocanes." Now that is funny, what about summer bearing? Is this not a problem? Handle them the same way you would manage summer bearing primocanes and floricanes. An everbearing raspberry plant REALLY is a primocane fruiting Summer bearing raspberry plant. Some harvest a 2nd crop "If you grow fall-bearing raspberries for an early-summer crop and a fall crop, then prune back the plants after the first small harvest in summer." http://homeguides.sfgate.com/afterharvest-care-raspberries-62059.html Everbearing red raspberries produce berries from midsummer to fall on the new season’s growth (called “primocanes”). Bud-bearing canes that survive winter also bear light crops in late spring http://www.motherearthnews.com/organic-gardening/fruits/growing-raspberries-zm0z12onzkon.aspx Some do believe the summer crop hurts the plants, but IMHO that is nonsense, as stated they are really just primocane fruiting summer bearing raspberries. As is the Ark series of blackberries. Or the Niwot black raspberry that bears a fall primocane crop. I typically get about 300 raspberries per plant for the summer harvest, about the same for the fall crop.. Maybe less? The summer crop uses 2/3 of the cane, so on everbearing the summer crops are typically larger. Those stating they are smaller, never did it. I can't explain it another way? I have done it for years. Here is Fall Gold with a summer crop on floricanes. The plants grow numerous laterals and fruits like crazy. The floricanes are on the right. The new primocanes are on the left, completely out of the way. I have found when you keep the floricanes, the new primocanes tend to come up AWAY from existing floricanes. Their is one primocane behind them, most on the left. By July 15th floricanes are finished and removed, and out of the way. So the cane behind them did fine. Maybe some cultivars do not perform well like this? I have Himbo Top, Fall Gold, Double Gold, Crimson Night, Anne, Kiwi Gold, Caroline, and Polka and take a 2nd crop on all of them. All do fairly well with the 2nd crop. For Summer bearing where I also have to manage primocanes and floricanes together I have Prelude, Encore, Taylor, Honey Queen, and Cascade Gold. I also have to manage both cane types with all of my blackberries, and Jewel, Allen, and the primocane fruiting Niwot black raspberry. For blackberries I have Triple Crown, Black Diamond, Loch Ness, Siskiyou, Marion, Boysen, Navaho, Columbia Star, Chester, Natchez, Newberry, Tayberry, Wyeberry, Nettleton's Creamy White, and Burbank's White.