Chellamural, may I make a suggestion? Plant Reve d'Or by the gate because she is very flexible and her canes can be put where YOU want them rather than where they want to go. The Cochets are very stiff-caned and mine did not appreciate being forced in different directions. Canes that I tied back invariably died, and I now just remove wayward young canes. Both roses are well armed but MC & WMC are almost lethal and putting them by that gate would probably not be a good idea. Take that from experience. I suggest not planting any of these next to the gate on the outside of the fence. They will become a monster with no room to go anywhere. I would plant Reve d'Or inside the fence on the side fence, maybe 6' down from the corner, and train it in both directions (similar to my photo above). Train it toward the corner and around and over the gate. That will leave less rose (but still a lot) to interfere with the gate. You and your DH will probably devise a better system, but I stuck 10' lengths (2' in the ground, 8' out of the ground) of rebar along the fence 8' apart, anchored them to the fence (they're floppy with weight on them), and ran rows of coated clothes-line wire between the rebar "posts" that the rose could be tied to. In hindsight I don't like the system, but I didn't have the ability to build anything better/stronger/higher. It works though. and after a few years the rose is semi-self-supporting courtesy of the wires and prickles. I assume that's a 6' fence. Due to the bulkiness of the rose, you'll need to give it support that's at least 8' high - 10' would be better - to get it up so you can walk under the bulk instead of around it. Sometimes it's impossible to get AROUND wayward prickly canes. They all naturally throw LONG canes - 8, 10, 12' long. Then those canes throw long canes, and on and on. So the growth tends to pile up on top where I let it be. Canes that grow toward my house are either thrown back on top (by me) or shortened to allow passage. If a "running" arbor of that height (8-10') could be built along the length of your fence (20' per rose), it would be great. Jerry-rigging these roses is not the best idea, since the re-do can be painful and bloody. I hope this helps. In south Florida you have the perfect conditions for these roses to become as big as they can be, i.e., humongous. You won't have the slowdown in winter that I have. If supported properly, your roses will be gorgeous. BTW, if you had a chainlink or rail fence, running them along that fence would be simple, but you have a stockade fence like I do, and all the growth must find its place on one side rather than straddling the fence unless you get it up high. Howdy, neighbor, do you like thorny roses? Some don't, like mine. If you don't get their support right, you will hate these roses because they will overwhelm and terrify you. Take charge, do it right, and get ready for unbelievable beauty. Feel free to email me. :)) Sherry Here is a link that might be useful: If only sweat were irrigation...

THANK YOU SO MUCH to everyone who has replied so far, This has been very helpful. I love that so many of you took he time to reply, and I also am excited to hear that I already have a few of the varieties that are mentioned here- some multiple times (Golden Celebration, Lady Emma, Darcy Bussell, Jubilee Celebration) they are still so young I haven't been able to tell anything about their blooming habits for sure yet. AnnTn, I live in a suburban area very close to an urban downtown area, so my yard is pretty small, I don't have room for many giant species of rose (although I'm constantly trying to make more room) my soil is heavy, sticky clay, but my flower beds have been amended so many times, I don't know how much of that is still in there, and if my hydrangeas are any indication it is very alkaline. Most of my available space at the moment is mostly sun with some dappled shade, but as soon as the sidewalk that is In planning stages gets built, I will build my fence, and then I will have more full sun space available, but I'm waiting until the sidewalk and fence are done to plant near the very front of my yard (some of the sunniest territory) I don't want the roses to get messed with during the construction process, I would hate to get into an altercation with a construction worker ;)

If I was going with an articulating faucet that would not be my choice way too hard to clean and to mechanical looking for no reason I love the Karbon for a nice hard working articulated faucet and IMO that is what you need with that sink

It is a bush variety and doesn't vine. Therefore it doesn't exactly grow on a trellis. You can drive a stake next to it and tie it up continually through the growing season, or use a tomato cage and keep it contained somwhat. Otherwise it'll just grow outward and cover several square feet. Rodney