Aloe Vera plant gone bad?
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Aloe Vera - How to divide pups from mother plant?
Comments (33)http://faq.gardenweb.com/discussions/2765911/how-do-i-care-for-my-aloe-vera-plant "Many aloes produce 'pups'. When the pup is fully formed, detach it from the mother plant, let it callus over for a few days in a cool, dry area, and pot it up. If it has roots, pot as you would a regular aloe, allowing for the fact that it is smaller and should be in a suitably sized pot for its size. If it has no roots, let it callus over, place the cut/broken end ON the soil, and support it with top dressing. DO NOT WATER IT-it has no roots, so watering the soil will likely cause rot. Instead, mist it every few days. Roots should start forming within a month. When growth is evident, it can be watered."...See MoreHelp with Aloe Vera plant
Comments (45)Okay, I understand. I'm going to keep these two in pretty small pots until they have more roots established. I don't mean tiny pots- just like medium sized I would say. And I will add some small rocks to the top in order to stabilize the plants. Today I unpotted both of my aloes to see how much damage there could be and if any, it would allow me to remove the damage and let them callus over before repotting this weekend or so. The roots of the smaller aloe look pretty good to me- there is plenty of new growth (including new baby roots and additional growth on the longer, older ones). This was the aloe with the two leaves on the bottom that turned yellow and shriveled up- which I was told was normal and the plant was just shedding the older leaves. These leaves were easily removed from the base with gentle pulling. Just wondering if you guys agree with me and the roots look good and this one can be planted as normal in the new gritty soil. Two pictures of the smaller aloe: Next, was the bigger aloe which I wasn't happy with. As can be expected, it's roots did suffer. So I trimmed off the dying roots and was left with barely anything. But I was happy to see it has one new root growing! So there is something left there (: My question with this one is should I remove the dark part of old stem that is under the baby root? I don't know if this is rotten or not, it's soft and dark but not mushy or smelly. I'm thinking I should remove it because it's not doing any good but will that much trauma to the plant cause more suffering? Bigger aloe: One more thing, I read about putting cinnamon on any cuts or damage upon transplanting in order to prevent infection. Should this be done immediately or after the plant has had some time to callus? Thanks in advance for any help (:...See MoreAloe Vera Plant Problems
Comments (6)Your plant is probably an Aloe ciliaris, one of the climbing Aloes. It will clump and climb if given the chance. Here's the same plant a 4-5 years later. I don't see the problem that you are seeing. Your plant looks pretty good to me (except for the kitty bites, of course). As for potting - Bagged soil, like MiracleGro, retains a lot of water/moisture. I would recommend that you pull your Aloe out of the pot - get all the soil from the roots - and mix is with at least 50% perlite or pumice. The mix will be chunkier, like this - You need a potting mix that drains well. And you must have a hole in the bottom of the pot for drainage. Succulents do not like to sit in water. Adding rocks to the bottom of the pot does nothing to help with drainage, so please don't try that. Let the plant dry out between waterings. It will do better if kept dry than it would if too wet. You can check it with a wood skewer, or even a pencil, pushed down into the pot. Since you cross posted to Alabama, I assume that's where you are. Will you take it outside for the summer? You need to wean your plant into outdoor light. Aloes like full sun, but if you plunk it into the sun it will burn -- just like me! ;-)...See MoreTrying to Find Ideal Pot and Soil for Aloe Vera Plants
Comments (11)Two of the most notable attributes of a properly made 'gritty mix' are the fact it lifts the tax levied by excessive water retention, and it's adjustable for water retention; so, if a medium doesn't support any notable amount of perched water, the pot size/ shape/ depth shouldn't matter ...... as long as you're not under-watering and are being reasonable about how often you water. If the gritty mix isn't appropriately screened to remove the fines, there's no reason to expect it to perform significantly better than a long list of other mediocre media, which means there honestly wouldn't be any good reason to go through the effort/expense of making it. That said, I haven't found anything that comes close enough to how well it works when it's properly screened to entice me to even think about changing. Can someone talk about how deep the roots grow on this plant, and does it like a deep pot? How deep the roots run on in situ plants has nothing to do with how deep they'll run in a container. If you have an adequate volume of air:water in the medium, plants normally considered to be shallow rooters in situ will happily colonize the entire soil mass of even the deepest pots. What kind of soil should be ideal for it? See below.I've given a considerable amount of thought to what properties the ideal medium would embody. What I come up with is: What kind of watering pattern is ideal? It seems to like a lot of water (by succulent standards) to stay in peak condition. IS 'X' A GOOD SOIL? I think any discussion on this topic must largely center around the word "GOOD", and we can broaden the term 'good' so it also includes 'quality' or 'suitable', as in "Is X a quality or suitable medium?" How do we determine if medium A or medium B is a good one? And before we do that, we had better decide if we are going to look at it from the plant's perspective or from the grower's perspective, because often there is a considerable amount of conflict to be found in the overlap - so much so that one can often be mutually exclusive of the other. We can imagine that grower A might not be happy or satisfied unless knows he is squeezing every bit of potential from his plants, and grower Z might not be happy or content unless he can water his plants before leaving on a 2-week jaunt and still have a weeks worth of not-having-to-water when (s)he returns. Everyone else is somewhere between A and Z; with B, D, F, H, J, L, N, P, R, T, V, X, and Y either unaware of how much difference medium choice can make, or, they understand but don't care. I said all that to illustrate the large measure of futility in trying to establish any sort of standard as to what makes a medium 'good' from the individual grower's perspective; but let's change our focus from the pointless to the possible. We're really only interested in the comparative degrees of 'good' and 'better' here. It would be presumptive to label any medium "best", though 'best I've found' or 'best I've used' CAN sometimes be useful for comparative purposes, but that's a very subjective judgment. Let's tackle 'good', then move on to 'better', and finally see what we can do about qualifying these descriptors so they can apply to all growers. I would like to think that everyone would prefer to use a medium that can be described as 'good' from the plant's perspective. How do we determine what a plant wants? Surprisingly, we can use %s established by truly scientific studies that are widely accepted in the greenhouse and nursery trades to determine if a medium is good or not good - from the plant's perspective, that is. Rather than use confusing numbers that mean nothing to the hobby grower, I can suggest that our standard for a good should be, at a minimum, that you can water properly. This means at any time during the growth cycle you should be able to water your plantings to beyond the point of saturation (so excess water is draining from the pot) without the fear of root rot or compromised root function due to (take your pick) an excessive volume of water or too little air in the root zone. I think it is very reasonable to withhold the comparative adjective, 'GOOD', from media that can't be watered properly without compromising root function, or worse, suffering disease from one of the fungaluglies that cause root rot. I also think anyone wishing to make a case from the plant's perspective that a medium which can't be watered to beyond saturation w/o compromising root health can be called 'good', is fighting uphill against logic. So I contend that 'GOOD' soils are those we can water correctly; that is to say, we can flush the medium when we water without concern we would be compromising root health/function due to long term retention of excess water. If you ask yourself, "Can I water correctly if I use this medium?" and the answer is 'NO' .... it's not a good choice .... for the reasons stated above. Can you water correctly using most of the bagged bagged potting media readily available? 'NO', not without work-arounds in place, and we can talk about those. What about 'BETTER'? Can we determine what might make a better medium? Yes, we can. If we start with a medium which meets the minimum standard of 'good', and improve either the physical or chemical properties of it, or make it last longer structurally, then we have 'better'. Even if we cannot agree on how low we wish to set the bar for what constitutes 'good', we should be able to agree any medium that reduces excess water retention and increases aeration ensures better potential for optimal root health than media which only meet some one's individual and arbitrary standard of 'good'. All the plants we grow, unless grown from seed, have the genetic potential to become beautiful specimens. It's easy to see the absolute truth in the idea that if you give a plant everything it needs to prosper it will flourish. The better we are at it, the better our plants will grow. But we all know it's not that easy. Lifetimes are spent in careful study, trying to determine just exactly what it is that plants want and need to make them grow best. Since this is a discussion, let's examine what the plant wants from its soil. It wants a soil in which we have endeavored to provide in available form, all the essential nutrients, in the ratio in at which the plant uses them, at a concentration high enough to prevent deficiencies yet low enough to make it easy to take up water (and the nutrients dissolved in the water). First and foremost, though, the plant wants a container medium that is evenly damp, never wet or soggy. Giving a plant what it wants to flourish and grow doesn't include a medium half saturated for a week before aeration returns to the entire mass, even if we only water in small sips. Plants might do 'ok' in some water-retentive soils if the grower is highly skilled, but in order to actually flourish as plants are genetically programmed to do, they would need to be unencumbered by media which do not remain wet/ soggy for extended periods. What defines our proficiency as growers is our ability to identify and reduce the effects of limiting factors, or by eliminating those limiting factors entirely; in other words, by addressing those influences inhibiting the plant from reaching its genetic potential. Even if we are able to provide every other factor that influences plant growth/ vitality perfectly, it could not make up for a substandard medium. For a plant to realize its full genetic potential, every factor has to be perfect, including the medium. Of course, we'll never manage to get to that point, but the good news is, as we get closer and closer, our plants get better and better; and almost certainly, we'll find our growing experience more rewarding. The only thing I can think of is that the deep pots are allowing the root zone to totally dry out, which they must like. I don't think that's it. More likely, it has to do with the fact tall pots are easier to grow in (when using media with a PWT) because they have a higher % of unsaturated soil. If you're growing in the tall pot, the plant would have no reason to balk because of a PWT until the roots have colonized all the space above the PWT. When that occurs, there begins a cyclic death and regeneration of first the finest roots, followed by thicker roots, all due to lack of oxygen and adequate gas exchange. This effectively puts the brakes on top growth until root growth can catch up to the degree it can again support new growth, and can rob plants of massive amounts of potential. Because plants shed parts, which decreases their dry weight, the true measure of growth, it can be argued that unhealthy root system can rob a planting of more than 100% of its potential. Al...See Moreryseryse_2004
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