Trailing Blackberry Flavor
jtburton
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Comments (23)Olpea, You say that for you Apache is almost as good as Triple Crown. Well, maybe it is due to the difference in conditions. My place should be pretty similar to OSU in climate. Or maybe the difference between "fair" and "good" isn't that big. From their list I've grown and tasted: ORUS 1843, Nightfall, Lochness, Black Satin, Apache roughly in order of usefulness. ORUS 1843 is far and away the best tasting of the lot. It has an intense, fruity, distinctive flavor but the berries are small and soft so take some care and labor to harvest. Nightfall also has a an intense and distinctive flavor. It isn't as complex as the ORUS flavor though and is EXTREMELY tart. Its had a much greater yield and is an order of magnitude easier to pick than the ORUS though. I'd say for me those 2 have been a success and the others have been either relegated to "wait and see" or aren't worth their space. I tore out the Apache last fall after giving it two chances to impress me. I thought maybe they weren't fully established or I had a cultural problem, but that OSU site describes them to a T. Most of the fruits had some white drupelets. The ones that didn't had tough chewy skin, big seeds and an unpleasantly firmer core (I presume that's what they mean by lumpy). And the flavor was mildly sweet and bland. I'd much rather eat the wild weed blackberries that are everywhere here. I'm giving Triple Crown a shot this year. I hope I don't have the problem with sunburn. I wonder if my site exacerbates it because it is shielded from morning sun. I'm intrigued to try Black Pearl because the others rated excellent by OSU (ORUS 1843 and Marion) really are much better than anything else I've tried....See MoreTriple crown blackberry flavor vs wild blackberries
Comments (2)I have Triple Crown, Apache and Navaho and the TC makes the most perfect berries and they are earlier than all the others but they are not very sweet. They aren't bland, just kinda sour. They work well when cooking (when you add sugar to them). The Navaho has the best eat-it-in-the-field flavor and the berries are very large - but they always have some voids on them (poor pollination) and often some botrytis too....See More2013 trailing blackberry report
Comments (83)The coldest temperature at my house was -8F but I had five nights at -5F or lower. I had some winners and losers but I think I also benefited from solid snow cover for the coldest parts of the winter. I covered my trailing berries with row covers too. My Siskiyou and Kotata blackberries didn't have any dieback and kept most of their leaves. Both are already sprouting leaves and the Siskiyou are kicking up new cane sprouts already. Interestingly, the Kotata escaped vole damage although they were in between fully consumed plants. I think that because they are so thorny, that the voles decided to bypass them. My row of boysenberries were covered but could not lay flat, so they only had partial snow cover during the winter. They had some dieback but were impacted more by voles (mice) and cane borers. I lost about 80% of the canes in total. It does look like boysenberry (thorny) plants are reasonably hardy. I had a couple of boysenberry plants in pots that I moved inside in mid-winter (after the -8F temps) and they had about 30% winter kill but they are also leafed out and getting ready to bloom. My marionberry plants that were planted in ground had about 50% dieback but they also had some cane borer damage. They are leafing out now and I should have a decent amount of berries from them this year. Loganberry plants overwintered with about 30% dieback but they had decent loss from cane borers. They are popping leaves and canes now. My Obsidian blackberries died a horrible death from vole damage. There wasn't much left of them. I decided to pull them since they seemed to have a leaf curl problem last year anyway. My black diamond survived the winter but lost it canes to cane borers (I had to prune them off). I'm going to remove black diamond and replace it with Columbia Star. I did leave a wild treasure uncovered all winter and it survived but anything above the snow line died back. My semi-erect blackberries (triple crown and black satin) seem to have had little to no winter damage. Kiowa had minor dieback but it was to canes that would have been pruned back anyway, so there was no practical loss there. Surprisingly, I had two Kiowa canes that tip rooted (tip layer) which I though erect blackberries didn't do. PrimeArk 45 is sprouting leaves now but I'm not sure how much winter damage it incurred due to the fact that part of the canes had to be pruned anyway due to fruiting on the primocane part of the canes. I did let them grow too long and they didn't produce very many laterals which will impact summer fruiting. Ouachita seems to overwintered with little winter damage after pruning but they are starting to leaf out now which makes me nervous because our frost free date isn't until early May. It looks like all of my raspberries survived the winter fine. One interesting finding is Cascade Delight. It was uncovered and seems to have overwintered OK but is a 'Western' raspberry. It is starting to leaf out now. There might be some winter damage but I'll report back on that. I think you should try out Siskiyou, it seems like a pretty hardy trailing blackberry....See MoreHeated Mini-Tunnel for Overwintering Western Trailing Blackberries
Comments (5)I have 1 last idea-Primocane Blackberries. Although you won't get blackberries as early, this is probably the cheapest way to go. All you have to do is mow the plants down right after they go dormant. Then the mulch would do. This is probably the most budget-friendly way, because blackberries can proliferate and clone themselves at lightning speeds, and it takes 3-4 years to get well established . With my experience, most blackberries can tolerate temps down to -5 degrees Farenheit, but I don't know your growing conditions, so maybe try a small experiment with the primocanes on the side. I tend to sway towards low-maintenance as much as possible...See Morejtburton
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