Now, if you can visualize... ==>> no.. i cant... to give you any good information on these specific plants ... sorry at 80ish... lets go a little zen here... what are you trying to accomplish.. on 11 acres.. with a row of these things... i presume this isnt like suburbia... where you are trying to hide from some neighbor 15 feet away .... so why not just let it go??? .... just watch and see what happens over time ... and if the deer take them.. so what???? replacing them.. or fencing them.. simply because that is how they have always been.. seems like a lot of work to me .... again.. on 11 acres ... if i were you.. i would declare it a native area.. and let the natives take over.. and see what happens.. crikey.. at 54.. i am already declaring such ... lol ... and i only have 5 acres .. dont make yourself more work.. just to keep things... like they used to be ... ken

Hi Dorothy, The deer are in my yard in record numbers this fall and winter and the only veggies/herbs I've ever grown that they never have eaten in our 9.5 years here are lemon balm, basil, garlic and onions. I have dusty miller in planters by the barn and they've never nibbled at them either. They also don't seem fond of ornamental cabbage although they devour the regular cabbage if they get a chance. Although they have their own favorites (in my garden it is okra and pepper plants), they'll eventually eat even the coarse pumpkin leaves if they get hungry enough. I've even had them eat the leaves of castor bean plants and both datura and brugmansia plants. It is somewhat ironic they are eating your deer tongue lettuce, isn't it? The deer here have the attitude that I shouldn't plant anything I don't want them to eat. The taller (7' tall) garden fence mostly kept them out after we errected it this year, but sometimes they go into the garden if I leave the gate open. (Ooops.) They even raid the two bird feeders occasionally and will nibble on Burford holly leaves when they are feeling desperate in late winter. About all I can say about the record numbers of deer this year is that we also seem to have huge numbers of coyotes pursuing them. (And, consequently, the rabbit population has plunged these last few months too.) I also find it ironic that friends and relatives of ours who hunt (especially in the drought-plagued Hill Country of Texas) are not having a good hunting season---I keep telling them to come sit in my driveway (tongue-in-cheek) from dusk to dawn and they'll be able to get a deer every night of the week. Is your big veggie garden fenced? Dawn

I've had terrible deer problems (and other warm blooded animals) this season. They eat almost everything and what they don't eat they trample. I was given a recipe that works great. I tried all the commercial products and they didn't help. This is also egg based and not only keeps the deer away but the rabbits, squirrels, chipmunks and racoons stay away too. So do I for the first few hours after spraying the stinky stuff! lol You mix a few cloves of crushed garlic, 1/4 cup veg oil and 3 eggs into a gallon of water. Cover the jar and let it sit in the sun for a few days then strain it into a spray bottle and treat the plants. It seems to work for about 10 days if there's no heavy rain. Karyn

Look on the underside of the leaves. I don't have beets but the cabbage worms occasionally get to my radishes and munch their leaves. Could also be aphids or grasshoppers.