Sybil, I have some I can spare. I also have a few other things on your list. Zinnia Whirligig Cosmos Daydream Lantana and Mexican Sunflower "Torch" send me and E-Mail if interested. BTW, how are the baby cream cups? Amy

i have a few seeds if ya want, sending you e-mail:)

Zone 5 varies from state to state and even within a state. zone maps do not take into consideration the areas that get snow cover that protects various perennials through the winter; nor does it take into account areas of zone 5 that do not have snow cover or snow cover long enough to protect perennials through the winter. It doesn't take into account weather extremes that can vary from one year to the next. Things like minimal snow cover for that year, low temps that are not usual for that particular zone 5 or severe ice storms that come instead of rain or snow. Zone maps should be used as a guide only, and not the be all that ends all guide to what to grow. If it is hardy to zone 5 and you are in zone 6, then you should be OK with that plant surviving the winter. On the other hand if it is hardy to zone 5 and you are in zone 5, then you may or may not get that plant to survive the winter, but if it doesn't and it blooms the first year, you could use it as an annual or take a chance and hope for the best. Zone maps also don't take into account those micro areas in any given city or town or even in our own yards that can make the difference between one zone or another. Zone maps have recently changed and some areas are now in a warmer zone or on the border of the warmer zone than they used to be. In my case, part of my town is in zone 6 and part of it is zone 5. The town is in a valley and depending on where you are headed down into the valley, determines whether you are in zone 5 or zone 6. I am now much closer to zone 6 than I was even 5 years ago,according to the new maps, BUT, i've rarely had a perennial that is hardy to zone 5 survive the winter and I have yet to get a perennial that is hardy to zone 6 survive the winter. Mother nature is the one in control on when seeds will germinate and they will when she says the should germinate. They won't germinate before she gives the go ahead. When she does, you will see green sprouts in your containers, slowly at first and then more and more will come, until you find that you check in the morning and have sprouts, check in the afternoon and you have more sprouts and check before the sun goes down and you have even more. Patience is the name of the game, not zone numbers. It will happen, just wait and be patient. Fran

Thanks, everyone. Yes, it's Geum triflorum. Friends gave me seeds....and I snatched some from a park in Chicago. Tee hee hee. Sorry, tiffy. I looked through my files and found no picture of the whole plant. I'll go out tomorrow to take some. Hope they didn't get smashed. A tornado just went through the area this evening. Mine are still small, but the ones in the park are at least 18" tall. They are grouped together in large drifts. They were quite impressive when I saw them yesterday. I will see if they suffered any storm damage when I go to work on Monday. Here are some more photos. They were taken last month. They are even smokier now and started to fly away. Buds: