Ace, I have been relying on Surround early on, then spinosad, as well as oiling eggs along the way. I also have mating disruption placed in my orchard (which there is another thread going about right now) and I regularly prune the flagging tips to eliminate those future moths. I can't reliably say what is giving the most help because I am doing all of these things, but the population has been going down steadily for the last several years. I have my glue trap in a spot where there is usually the most damage and there is a lot of tip flagging, so there are plenty of moths about there. My codling moth trap does catch a lot, but not my OFM trap. The main thing I use the trap for is to time the generations, the first few generations are highly localized in time. When you see a few moths in the trap it means mating and egg-laying is happening and its time to hit the whole tree (especially tips) with oil in a few days to get any eggs. It takes 1-3 weeks for the eggs to hatch depending on how cold it is (1 week if really hot and 3 weeks if really cold). The spinosad needs to be out when they are hatching so that means a few weeks after the trapping is prime spinosad time. The first flagged tips is a good indicator for when to hit the spinosad, it means the leading edge of that generation has just hatched and you want to quickly spray before they have all burrowed into the tips out of reach. For the later generations they shift from a focus on tips to the fruits and the generations blur so the timing can't be done as well. Scott

Scott- I think i've got a little better hang of this Surround. I know i was too late on the apricots and they got dinged VERY early by PC. It must have been a very early hatch of them or something, but i know it had to be them because the markings are very noticeable. We had a top 10 record warm March/April followed by some real cool late April/early May and now its jumped to summer so PC should be all over. I don't think i have much issues with CM/OFM. I do have a horrible time with 2 beetles (Rose chafers/Japanese beetles) which will start coming in about 2 weeks. So i'll have to keep sprays up since they feed on foilage and fruit. I have noticed that Surround doesn't seem to adhere as well to nectarines/sweet cherries/plums? The peaches seem to get coated nicely and i'm guessing its the fuzz, same with the apricots. I've put a heavy layer on my Superior plums anyways which get blasted by PC and beetles. One of my plums i have just left as a trap crop because it has set very few fruit and they aren't that great to begin with. I never had to touch all 3 apple trees with Surround because they sized up enough during that cold spell so i could go right to bagging. Looks like a perfect crop of them if i can keep the tree rats away. Maybe i should be adding an oil? Apricot Superior Plum Alderman Plum (PC damage)

tradergordo: There is another thread running right nearby here somewhere, in which Scott suggests rolling up two ends of the footie and tying it right over the branch or twig with a square knot. Harvesting will require a sharp pocket knife to get these things off. I tried Scott's method, and very much prefer it to stapling, which I found awkward and ineffective at giving me a good seal around the "stem", if you can call it that on a peach. My footies came from Store Supply Warehouse, in Harrisburg, PA, and they were very reasonably priced, even with shipping. It's cheaper to buy several boxes rather than just one, since shipping and handling remains the same. I am looking at my footie box right now, and see their phone number is 1-800-823-8887. When I called them and gave them my credit card number, the footies were somehow here the next day. I don't know how you would compare labor input of footie installation with use of Surround. Footies are tedious to install, but when it's over, it's over. One of the principal reasons I bag fruit is to avoid having to lug the sprayer around eight or more times a season. To me, elimination of pesticide use is a nice bonus. Once installed, the footies are quite unobtrusive on the trees; much less so than plastic or the ghostly white of Surround. With the Scott footie-tying method, I am even going to try covering the nectarines, which are nearly impossible to do with plastic. Never actually grew a ripe nectarine here yet. But I will continue to use plastic sandwich bags on the apples. Don Yellman, Great Falls, VA

Luke, I am using disruption. There are some places selling small quantity but the price is so high per unit that I just buy a bag and freeze. They last for a long time frozen. I have not yet figured out how well they work on a small number trees, you are supposed to have minimum 5 acres according to some brands, but if disruptors are placed in the area around the trees as well I think it will work for smaller plots. I have not been good about having the disruptors out, I keep putting them out too late (am trying to get the most life out of them by waiting to the last minute) so am not disrupting the key first mating well enough. Also I should be renewing them since my season is too long for just one round. But I have many fewer moths this year than last so something is working; my spray regimen has stayed the same. For you I would not bother to start this year since the disruptors work much less well when there are already lots of moths. But its something to think about for next year. If you want to get the cost down you may be able to find someone to split a bag with here. I could probably sell you some of mine at cost as well. Also I see Great Lakes IPM is having a sale now, $120 for a 200-pack. IMO they are the best source; along with the product you can get some excellent advice. Scott