building raised beds over tree roots
wyannette
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wayne_5 zone 6a Central Indiana
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Raised beds under small trees? What to build with?
Comments (5)Michelle, I'm still trying to make my "stone retaining wall" look appropriate using the keyboard. (Tried it a few months ago and think I only generated confusion. ;o) So here it is: --O-- -O-O- O-O-O Think of the dashes as nothing, okay . . . I took stones about the same size as you have and laid them in 3 rows directly on the ground. Then placed premixed concrete on top and set 2 rows of stones on top of the mix. Then more concrete and 1 row of stones. The result was a low retaining wall that has held together for 10 years. I'd take a picture but the soil has built up to the point where you can't see much more than that top row of stones . . . The bagged premix seemed more appropriate than mortar since the spaces between the irregular stones were so great. Further, they used pea gravel (not crushed rock) in the premix that I bought. The mix formed a nice firm bond. I've used various types of wood for raised beds - those 3X5 landscape timbers, hardwood salvaged from a cabinet shop, cedar fence boards, etc. What worked best was the hardwood but I wouldn't be able to tell you the species. Cedar was NOT very impressive in terms of its longevity - the landscape timbers worked better. What they were treated with - haven't a clue. Dad did a pretty good job preserving a pine board fence with pentachlorophenol. (I was surprised - pine?!?) We used copper naphthenat for various uses when I worked in the greenhouse. digitS' Here is a link that might be useful: Selecting Preservative Treated Wood...See MoreDealing with invading tree roots in my raised beds
Comments (11)Gal, I deal with something similar each spring. So, our city fathers, in their infinite wisdom, redesigned our main commercial street about ten years ago. It was decided to plant trees in what amounts to concrete vaults-these things go 4 ft. down below grade, so there's nowhere for the roots to spread out to. Then, flowerbeds were decided upon at each end of these tree beds. I might not be making this very clear, but in any case, what has resulted is that each year, we have to try to plant stuff in what amounts to a mass of tree roots-almost no actual soil to work with. It sucks, let me tell you! We just do what must be done, cutting and chopping those roots out of the way. It's not right for the trees, and it's not ideal for the flowers, and so on that we then plant, but it's the best compromise available to us. In fact, because once the flowering stuff is planted, we water, fertilize, etc....the tree roots rapidly regrow back into that area. We have considered installing a barrier but in reality, this should have been done at initial construction, a point which, by the way, I made loudly and often back then!...See MoreHow to build raised bed and avoid roots from maple trees coming in?
Comments (8)I have the same problem. I put thick cardboard under the bed and that lasted only 1 to 2 years and had to be redone. This fall and winter I am going to raise the beds up a little and put a bottom on the growing bed. It can be raised by putting cinder blocks, bricks or any kind of wood to raise the bed off the ground. I plan to use 2" thick by 12" high pine boards as a base. Then I will put the growing bed directly on top of the base. Since the base will not be in contact with the soil, I plan to use pressure treated lumber for the base. This will also raise the bed up a little so I don't have to bend over as far....See MoreRaised beds and tree roots
Comments (35)Plant in the existing soil, between large roots, and use mulch to encourage establishment and growth. Do not pile mulch against the base of the fence or place anything else against it, that might cause the wood to be kept moist. (Also if the bottom cross pieces are resting on the soil the dirt should be dug out beneath them so they do not rot. The depth need only be enough to eliminate soil contact). Fruit should be out in the open, where it gets full light. Persimmons are hot summer climate trees, not a regular feature of British plantings. In addition to the R.H.S. web site and magazine you can get ideas for plants, read discussions of methodology in magazines that are on display at libraries and book stores - I see ones like B.B.C. Gardener's World and English Gardening over here. It seems a source in the U.K. itself might have multiple additional titles available. And as I believe was suggested previously visits to any nearby private or public gardens could be quite instructive. Public ones in particular might even have classes, guest speakers or other events of interest. If you are saying you want the plants to be hardy to the equivalent of 5 degrees F. then that is comparatively mild by continental U.S. standards, except in parts of the southern and Pacific Coastal areas. You can see here where you fit in relation to U.S. winter climates, with the coldest British USDA zoning being 7 whereas large sections of the U.S. fall well below that: http://www.trebrown.com/hrdzone.html Note - as it says in the discussion at the page linked to - that the minimum temperatures associated with each Zone are average temperatures and not the coldest it gets in each Zone....See Moreanney
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