No Mow Lawn and Garden Beds
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Comments (29)Your comments tend to stimulate and help organize my thinking on this project, even if they seem to have no connection with where I'm headed. It is hard to directly address any particular post because of the flood of thought each one stimulates. I considered a piece of raw land and then putting up a 900 +/- sqft abode. I have spent a great amount of time living and working in the bush. I do not want to park there permanently. It is not as Idylic as many people seem to think. If you opt for one of the villages it gets even more complicated. If it is convenient to the city and its amenities, it usually has too many restrictions or is a parcel with too many problems for realistic consideration. With other factors figured in also, it seems that I'm being directed to locate in one of Anchorage's older neighborhoods. I envision it as a reclamation project, returning it to something like its original condition, EXCEPT in a more park like setting. I enjoy the fall colors of the blue berry brush, high bush cranberry, Canadian Dogwood, Bear Berry, etc., as well as the summer succession of ferns and wild flowers. I am aware that the vision is much grander than reality will allow. But, nothing ventured nothing gained. My area is a modified marine climate. Summer days are long. Around here, they reach 19 to 19-1/2 hrs. at summer solstice. The sun is not intense though. And, many days are lost to overcast. I find that the sweetest blue berries are the ones that get the most sun. The story may be different in the interior, say around Fairbanks, where the days are even longer, warmer and with less overcast. After I threw the last of my kids out of the door, I swore that I'd never own a vehicle with room for more than 2 people, a lawn mower or a snow shovel. So far, I have kept that promise and intend to continue doing so. Plus, I am activly busy with things I'd rather be doing than mowing lawn in the summer: getting outdoors, out of town and out of sight of anyone else. I have other priorities. I guess I've ranted enough for now. I've been down with a cold this weekend, so I've had time on my hands to kill. I'm healing up and life will be getting busier beginning tomorrow. I'll try to get back at least one more time. But, I feel the nudging of things that need to be done will eventually take precedence. For those that might like to look. My photo album: http://mr-correll.t15.org/ Take care folks....See MoreRipping out garden beds for lawn
Comments (6)Quite a garden spot. Lots of work to do. You have two choices for easy lawn. If you want to do more work you might be able to use a third. The primary warm season grasses that will work for you are bermuda and St Augustine. Bermuda is much more work to keep nice. If you keep it very low (1 inch or less) then you will be mowing 2x per week. Bermuda must have as much water as any other grass to stay nice and green. It must also have monthly apps of high nitrogen fertilizer to stay green. If you are considering bermuda, please read the Bermuda Bible (search the Internet). Read that first to get an idea of how much work it is. By the way it will thin out all the way to bare dirt in shade. Bermuda is a very fine bladed turf and very dark green (at least the Tif 419 variety is). St Augustine is the other warm season grass that will work nicely. It can be mowed at the mower's highest setting and will work best at that height. There is never any reason to mow it lower. It can get by on 3 doses of chemical fertilizer per year but would love to get organic fertilizer in between. Some people with children don't want any chemicals at all. We can help you if that is your situation. St Aug requires as much water as any other grass; however, if you let it go dry and then brown, it will die. Other grasses go dormant. Not St Aug. St Augustine is a coarse bladed grass. When well fertilized it is dark green. St Aug is very shade tolerant. I have some that hasn't seen direct sunlight in years. And do not rototill the soil. Level it at the surface. Scrape off the hills and move that soil to the holes. The less disturbance you make to the soil the better off you will be. If you dig a plant out, replace all the soil and leave a slight mound there. It will eventually settle leaving the ground level. If you level it now, it will eventually settle leaving a hole. Since you are doing a full renovation, be sure your drainage is right before putting in the turf. It should drain away from buildings and fences. That means you need a ditch (for lack of a prettier word) out to the front of the house. As long as it drains, the grass will grow in there fine. You don't want standing water anywhere. The only grass that grows in standing water is swamp grass (like nutgrass). The other alternative turf might be Kentucky bluegrass. If your summer temps get into the 90s for more than a day or two, then count this one out. I've seen it doing very well in Huntington Beach (but not Huntington Library). With that thought in mind, you are close enough to wander around Huntington Library and Descanso Gardens. Look closely at their lawns. If you see St Augustine mowed low (a common mistake in public venues), you should notice it looks dry and possibly weedy. Those are consequences of mowing St Aug low. If you see hybrid bermuda, take your shoes off and walk in it. Mmmmmmm!...See MoreGetting rid of Bermuda in lawn/garden beds
Comments (25)I have tall fescue lawn. Had lawn aerated and overseeded last fall. Looked just fine with a little bermuda here and there. Well the story changes. This summer we have had hardly any rain with 106 degree temperatures. My grass was looking very bad so I had a sprinkler sytem installed July 3rd but it was too late. Where the new grass died bermuda took over and especially in the places that were trenched for the sprinkler. Also crabgrass galore. So bad I fired the company that had been keeping up my lawn. Found out they were useing too week of a chemical solution for the square footage so it did not control crabgrass. I am completely killing out my lawn with roundup and reseeding. I know that roundup will kill the existing bermuda but will not do a permenant job. I saw a product at Lowes called Bermudagrass and crabgrass killer by BAYER Chemical. It says that you can use in on fescue and bluegrass but not bermuda, or other bermuda grass type grasses such as centepede or st. augustine. It is not suppose to hurt ornamental plants or other plants except Junipers at a few other types. It says that it will control bermuda and to completely kill it you will have to apply it monthly starting when bermuda greens and 1 or 2 seasons it will KILL it out. It is applied by hooking the container to a water hose so this would be easy. Has anyone tried this? I don't think it has been on the market for too long because at one time Bayer said they did not have anything that would kill it. Advise. Thanks...See MoreFlowering no-mow/water ground cover/grass and large garden bed ideas?
Comments (15)this is new jersey, as in northeast coast US near new York. I'm doing work at someone's house. Their goal initially was to just have a no-mow no water or fertilizer lawn. Then I or they pointed out how some of these no mow/water/fertilizer covers can be flowering type things instead of just grass and they liked that idea better. So we set out to find something like that online in seeds or plugs but I didn't really find anything at first. I just recently found a lot of those things are on ebay cheap seeds and should be started indoors over winter and planted in spring instead of planted now in Fall like grass seeds. At first, we kind of scrapped the idea of a flowering cover because they wanted to do the whole lawn with it but don't want it to spread to the neighbors' lawn especially underground and popping up. So we decided to just do a no-mow type lawn like Pearls Premium http://www.pearlspremium.com/ But considering the cost of the no-mow lawn seeds and not using chemical starter fertilizer or crabgrass preventers, it's a gamble to try and plant and hope it doesn't just turn to crabgrass. I have organic fertilizer but it's no where near high in phosphorus to develop good roots quickly like regular starter fertilizer, Organic starter fertilizer I can only find online believe it or not. Instead of doing the whole yard with something like Pearls Premium, It would probably cost them less for me to just till large landscape beds throughout the property and then get seeds off ebay of things like flowering ground cover (that doesn't spread underground like crazy) and things like creeping juniper etc. I'm open for suggestions on thing like this. Once these things are established, they need zero water and zero mowing and maybe a sprinkle of organic fertilizer every few years. They will need a pruning every few years but that's like an hour of work maybe. At the beginning, yes the newly planted landscape beds will have to be de-weeded well until the plants establish and thicken it up. We're leaving about a 8 foot border space from the property line that will just remain how it is now which is basically weeds with some turf grass mixed in. A no-mow lawn still needs to be cut maybe 3 times a year, so these 10' borders will have to be mowed anyway if they're left how they are or if regular grass or no-mow grass is planted there. Once the landscape beds are thriving, they can decide to plant regular or no-mow grass in the border areas. I can do that now since it's the right time instead of waiting until next Fall but we want to see how the landscape beds go first. I can probably just scalp mow the weedy border areas and that will really retard growth there so that omits the whole having to plant grass there but the yard will still look nice because of the landscape beds. Get the idea now? It's about making a nice yard with minimal mowing, watering, fertilizing, and the cost is very low thanks to ebay seeds. perennial ground cover flowering: http://www.pbcgov.com/newsroom/1211/_images/ground_covers_tibouchina.jpg http://img.diynetwork.com/DIY/2014/03/07/CI-Stepables_Groundcover-wooly-thyme_h_lg.jpg creeping juniper: http://s45.photobucket.com/user/mishmosh2000/media/misc/Oot_Picture-7.jpg.html etc...See Moremad_gallica (z5 Eastern NY)
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