Gaggenau 400 series or wait for Miele 7000 series for new appliances
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Wolf Double Ovens: L or E Series? Or American Range?
Comments (71)There won't be many reviews of the Benchmark series because they didn't come out very long ago. I do know at least one person on this forum has one though, and they love it. Cooktop: To be honest I don't really like gas cooktops so I'm not too familiar with the different offerings out there. If I had to buy one I would get Bluestar or Thermador because I believe they have the best burner designs (most powerful and most even). There are other factors to consider though like grates and burner/control layout and unfortunately I think both of those have center controls. I think the best thing you can do here is go to a showroom and maybe bring your pans. Personally I prefer induction cooktops, or, if it has to be gas, a rangetop. Hood: It's a fan in a metal box. Not much to go wrong. Buy the one that you like the looks, features and price of. Stay away from the no-name, obviously made in China ones that are only available online. Dishwasher: Bosch vs. Miele is a tossup. They are both good quality, Miele slightly more so but with a price to match. Again pick the one with the looks and features you want with a price you can afford. Make sure to bring your dishes to the showroom and make sure the racks will work for you. Fridge: What type do you need? Freestanding/built in/integrated? What width? French door/single door? (I'm assuming bottom mount since you mention drawers) This post was edited by hvtech42 on Wed, Jan 28, 15 at 11:23...See MoreSan Diego or SoCal Appliance Stores? Thermador, Gaggenau...
Comments (5)Purcell-Murray in Huntington Beach are distributors for Bosch and Gaggenau. They should be able to steer you to dealers nearest to you, though it would still be up to you to research the quality of the dealers from there. It might also be worth your while to make an appointment at P-M to see everything installed, or maybe go to one of their demos. When I bought my appliances a number of years ago, I was having a hard time getting some of the accessories I wanted, and the codes were confusing the people at the store. The P-M rep came to the store and was great help in tracking down the right pieces and getting them delivered to me....See MoreWolf single E-series oven trouble
Comments (133)I’m not sure my opinion is a huge help, since 1) I haven’t fully researched ovens in a few years now (thank goodness), and 2) I’ve become a bit jaded by spending for premium ovens to get quality, only to get problems. F&P and Wolf were my best baking ovens, but too many porcelain problems. My Gagg doesn’t have the porcelain problems at all, and, while I love the amount of control I have in choosing which elements it employs for what I’m baking, and whether it uses convection fans or not, I’d never pay the price for it again. -Mine was an outdated floor model, so a comparatively ‘good deal,’ but still more than I wish I’d spent. And a new one at new prices? No way. I’m pretty much fully on board with what 59 Dodge (Hi, Gary!) said above. Elux used to be a good choice, but I wouldn’t trust it now. When we first looked at ovens, Miele was my ‘If price was no object’ dream oven, based on their strict quality control in the manufacturing process, from start to beautiful finish. However, several years ago some very experienced bakers had some temperature issues that Miele didn’t seem to be addressing to their satisfaction. Also, my sister, a specialty dessert and wedding cake baker, bought on of their double wall ovens, and was never impressed as she thought she would be. The performance was ‘fine,’ but not spectacular, and she said they were small inside. So, this is where I part ways a little with Gary, I am not sure I’d consider Miele...although all of my concerns may have been addressed in recent models; I just don’t know. They’re pretty pricey and I’m less inclined to take expensive risks any more. Bosch is made by the same parent company as Gagg. We can hope that, but certainly not count on, they use the same materials or technique in coating their oven interiors. (They don’t have a stellar reputation for service, but then, with my Gagg oven or Bosch dishwashers, I haven’t needed to find out!) We haven’t seen anything here, that I know of, about porcelain problems...or, really, any other problems with Bosch ovens. Last I looked in person, they had roomier interiors than other brands and good lighting, and from what I see in current ads, their styling has improved and looks great. All this to say, I’ve decided that if I replace ovens or do another kitchen, Bosch is at the top of my list. If the baking isn’t as controlled as Gagg or as perfect as Wolf, but I’ve got GOOD performances, spent half (or less), and don’t have any hassles, I’d be very happy. Also, I had a JennAir ‘convection’ range about 15 years ago. It turned out not to be ‘European convection,’ but their own version that used another fan set up. Like you found with yours, it was all hype. When, because the oven vented hot air right in front of the electronic board for the cooktop, so it kept melting the wires, they gave me a partial refund. I replaced it with a plain, non-convection GE that did better 2-rack baking! So if that’s the kind of performance you’ve had, I’m betting the Bosch would be a big jump you could be happy with. Best wishes....See MoreMiele Generation 7000 appliance - US release dates?
Comments (47)I noticed that in Canada, the 7000 series appear to be available. But it is a smaller market than the US so perhaps they started there first? Note that on this page from Tasco Appliance, they have one 6000 series that is still for sale ( I believe its a 24 in. model so slower selling?). But the rest of them are 7000 model numbers and I noticed they have yellow/amber colored controls instead of red control lights which the 6000 series has/had. You can see this if you click on one of the 7000 series models. https://www.tascoappliance.ca/home/kitchen/cooking/cooktop/?page=1&category=INDUCTION&brand=45&currentFilter=%7B%22Value%22%3A%22INDUCTION%22%2C%22CurrentFilterType%22%3A2%7D...See More- 2 years agolast modified: 2 years ago
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