Where are all the 36 inch high washers and dryers????
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Comments (17)Good quality stackable washers will not be that cheap. They'll all be front load. The old small combo single units are just as expensive as the front loaders and do about half of the laundry, half as well. The FIRST thing you should do is to get a plumber in there to give you an estimate for the water and drain connections. It won't be as cheap or easy as you think. Washers are required to have a 2" standpipe these days rather than the old 1 1/2". That's all the way to the main drain, which could be prohibitive to do depending on what the home's construction is. The reason is that most modern washers eject water rather rapidly, and can overflow the smaller pipe size. Also, if you are concerned about leaks, you should build the laundry closet (Make SURE there's actually enough clearance to connect things with a person as well as the units!) as a "wet room" with a floor drain. Like a giant shower pan with the washing machine sitting it int. You'll have to keep the trap wet to keep sewer gas out as regular maintenance and it's not a cheap choice to do it that way, but it is the SURE choice for someone who is concerned about leaks. Is there no space other than the tenant's that could be turned into a communal laundry room? A basement or garage? That would alleviate your mind on the leaks, and give you more space to put in the less expensive units....See MoreAn all-in-one washer/dryer
Comments (10)Yes, there are some who have had negative experiences with this machine (and LG service). It happens. But as for us...At first my wife and I had some concerns, but we're getting to like it a lot. Our available space discourages anything larger than 24-inch machines. We considered the Eurotech 24" stackables (also sold as Whirlpools), as we could vent the dryer if necessary. We chose the LG combo because it would allow an overhead cabinet (and microwave shelf) in our tight shack. We were aware of (some of) its limitations: smaller loads, long drying times, problematic LG service, etc. (Not to mention that my wife's somewhat fussy about clothes.) As we were finishing up the kitchen remodeling just after Thanksgiving, we decided to just do it. Here in Los Angeles these things aren't very popular, as most people have lots of space. We've only seen one in a store, and that was a floor model at Frys which was sold a day later. And although you can special order them through Home Depot, a phone call told us that they were on back order and wouldn't be available for awhile. So we bought the floor model from Absolute Appliances in Hollywood and also got their extended warranty. As an added bonus: Here in LA, the Department of Water & Power will give you a $250 rebate on qualifying High Efficiency washing machines like this. Now, as for the machine's performance... CAPACITY. Not a problem for a bachelor or couple. It handles (dries) larger loads than you might think. NOISE and VIBRATION. The Wash cycle is short and silent. Final Spin cycle is a little noisy -- this thing will top out at 1400 RPM! -- but only lasts eight minutes. Most of the noise is generated by the pump, which is on-and-off throughout the Rinse, Spin and Dry cycles. It's quite noticeable, but if you're in the next room it's not too bad. Vibration isn't a problem if you have a fairly rigid floor and take the time to level it properly. CONVENIENCE. This is where the combos shine. Just load the machine, push Start (or set the Delay Timer) and you can forget about it, go to work and have a load of clean, dry clothes ready whenever you want. It's perfect for bachelors. WASHING. I've heard a lot of claims about how front-loading washers get clothes cleaner than top loaders. I don't think it's that simple. We have a twenty-year-old Kenmore top-loader downstairs in a common service porch. The LG will clean almost as well as the old Kenmore, especially if you select the LG's "Heavy Soil" option (it runs the Wash cycle longer). It's not surprising: the old Kenmore uses four times (!) the amount of water (and three times the detergent) that the LG uses. When we got our next water bill, we saw that our total water consumption had decreased 40 percent from when we used the top-loader. (That explains the DWP's $250 rebate.) However, I've read that the recent top-loading machines, like the newer 6-liter toilets, use less water than the older machines like our old Kenmore. So it may be that this LG works as well or better than the "newer" top-loaders. WRINKLING. Some users complain that everything comes out hopelessly wrinkled. A few have said that there are NO wrinkles at all(!). The truth is, of course, in between. You will almost always get some wrinkles, but there are ways to minimize them and make them manageable (combinations of Low Spin or No Spin, Low Temp Drying, fabric softener, etc.). DRYING. Drying is the make/break of this machine. With "Normal" drying, the machine's Time Remaining display will typically show 2:40 (two hours and forty minutes) at the start of the Dry cycle. However, with a reasonable-size load -- say, two pairs of jeans, four T-shirts, some socks and maybe a towel -- the drying sensor will decide somewhere around "1:20" remaining that the clothes are indeed almost dry, and will abruptly short-cycle the Time Remaining from 1:20 to :10 minutes. So a typical drying cycle will take around two hours. The clothes seem damp when you remove them. But it's mostly trapped steam, not water, and with a few shakes quickly evaporates, leaving the clothes dry. SERVICE. However...For the first couple of months, the machine would start to emit a pungent, hot-plasticky-rubber odor as the Dry cycle was finishing up. Opening the door at the end of the Dry cycle to let the steam out, the smell was quite powerful. Worse, it permeated the clothes and they retained that smell for days. We sniffed around the machine and discovered that the source of the odor was the big round rubber/plastic donut gasket that seals the front door. When it got steamy hot from the dryer, it would boil off "gasket vapor" which is what we were smelling. This was discouraging as it would seem to be a property of the gasket material, not a "malfunction" that could be fixed, and we hadn't seen this really mentioned on the discussion forums. Nevertheless, we thought we'd call LG Service and see how they responded. We called them on the Sunday before New Years Day (Tuesday), and they had a technician out to see us Thursday. (It probably helped that we're in Los Angeles.) He checked it out and pronounced it "normal." He suggested that some people use fabric softener to mask or hide the odor. At least LG service was prompt -- that was reassuring after some of the horror stories we've heard. My wife doesn't like fabric softener. She claims that it just puts a slightly greasy coating on the clothes that helps them resist wrinkling. So we started with putting Bounce sheets in before the Dry cycle. It helped a little. On my own, though, I tried a half-capful on some of my work clothes. That worked a lot better -- the smell was faint but noticeable. Here's where it got interesting: We used the fabric softener again on the next load, and the smell was very faint. Then we did a few more loads WITHOUT any fabric softener, AND THE ODOR WAS GONE! It seems that the fabric softener, while "coating" the clothes as my wife claims, was also coating the gasket and sealing it, preventing the emission of these odors when it gets hot. We now use a touch of fabric softener just once every dozen washes to "recoat" the gasket and keep its odor under control. So...We've come to really appreciate it and have mastered the art of getting delicate clothes clean with minimal wrinkling. Another note about service: I watched the LG technician remove the top to inspect the machine. The guts seem pretty accessible. We downloaded the Service Manual (found the link at Compact Appliances), and I'm fairly confident that, with it, a handyman like myself could probably troubleshot and fix it, if need be. It's a keeper....See MoreLoaded question: Good all around washer/dryer on the market today
Comments (27)I don't know much about different brands because most of my appliance purchases have been made at Sears. That has come to an abrupt end. The last two have needed service calls right away. My washer was one of them and I didn't know I was buying a washer that was "sort of" an HE. I have no control over the amount of water. I have learned to wash my large loads in the "bulky" cycle because the tub fills completely on both wash and rinse. My washer cleans on a low water cycle but doesn't rinse well AND I am not using to much soap. The jean will practically stand a lone when dry because there is soap left in them and they irritated my skin. I started using the 2nd rinse and they are soft again. While I was at Lowes a couple of days ago I checked out the washers. I did find a couple that allowed you to set the water level....See MoreRecommendation for Easy to Clean 36 inch All-Gas Range?
Comments (39)Oh geeze, here is my anal retentiveness rearing its ugly head again but here we go again. Hang on... Probably due to the terrible review that Consumer Reports gave Bertazzoni years ago on an older model people are shying away from the new model. Does the new model make up for the sins of the last model? So how about this comparison, The Bertazzoni MAST366GASXT vs. the Fisher & Paykel OR36SCG4X1? Off the top, I can get an extra burner with the Bertazzoni. The Fisher & Paykel offers only 5 burners. The Bertazzoni has better btu numbers, going from 750 btu's to 19,000 btu's. Fisher & Paykel goes from 1,000 btu's to 18,000 btu's. One of Bertazzoni's burners goes down to 750 btu's but the rest of their burners have higher btu's. What if you want to simmer more than one sauce at a time? Fisher & Paykel's burners only go down to 1000 btu's but all of their burners go this low. I am not worried about the btu's at the high end but the low end I am worried about. Are Fisher & Paykel's 1000 btu's low enough for a gentle simmer? The Betazzoni doesn't have a storage drawer. The Fisher & Paykel does. The Betazzoni seems to have a thin rubber door seal which can wear out faster than Fisher & Paykel's more robust woven door seal. Also, on the Bertazzoni, I can easily see sauce spilling into those rear air vents at the back of the oven. Is there a way to clean these vents if this happens? The Fisher & Paykel doesn't have this problem. The Bertazzoni has a 11,000 btu infrared gas broiler. Is it similar to the ceramic infrared broiler in the BlueStar Pro range? Though infrared broilers are preferred, is Bertazzoni's 11,000 btu broiler better than Fisher & Paykel's conventional 13,000 btu gas broiler? I finally found a stat that is the same on both ranges. The baking/roasting power on both ranges have a maximum 17,000 btu's. The difference is that Bertazzoni's oven is always on and kept at a constant temperature. I've never cooked with a range like this before and I wonder how much of an advantage it really is over conventional oven that turn on and off to regulate the temperature. Finally, at least of this writing, Fisher & Paykel is offering an extended 5 year warranty on all of their products, unheard of in the industry. Bertazzoni's warranty is the conventional two years so you will have to purchase an additional warranty for peace of mind. There are other questions I have too but this is a start. The problem with appliance dealers, blogs, and reviews is that no one really seems to be a consumer advocate. Has anyone addressed the issues I brought up here? I think potential customers would like to have answers to these questions....See Morebadabing2
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