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Comments (9)I think if you look through the website at the varieties that are not Highly Recommended (no star), those are the supplemental varieties. Mary Magdalene has been on the supplemental list for years with good cause, as they readily point out it has poor disease resistance. I've kept it because the blooms are among my very favorites and I was willing to spray, but I'm reconsidering that lately. But gosh is she gorgeous, so maybe she's a good choice for a drier climate than mine? John Clare is another, arguably one of DA's most prolific bloomers. Sorry no pics, seem I never photograph John because he's a bit on the plain side. Great for a constant splash of bright color. Completely defoliates here without spray but keeps on blooming. Crocus Rose seems to be on the hit list. I finally eliminated mine last year. It felt wrong to let go of such an incredibly hardy rose but even with spray it suffered from BS. Perhaps a good rose for a cold dry place. Here it is looking fine in June, but once the temps rise the leaves go black for the rest of the summer. Funny they tended not to drop, but hung onto the plant and looked ugly. Sophy's Rose, I don't understand the problem; my version of BS doesn't seem to trouble it much, so maybe it suffers from other maladies. DA states its disease resistance as only "Good" (which means poor, and "Average" means terrible, don't even thing about "Poor"). Personally I wonder if it's not a popular color for English roses. They try to promote it as a red, but it's more of a magenta and fades considerably. To each his own, it's a stellar bloomer and heathy enough here. Tidy growth habit, doesn't get too large. I can't find any pics of Ambridge. I cherished Ambridge for the fragrance and the delicate blooms. Mine was own root, suffered badly every winter and didn't rebound. I eventually gave it up after a summer where it didn't reach a foot high. Might do better grafted. Seem to recall BS was a problem....See MoreHortico 2018 & David Austin 15% Coupon
Comments (7)@Erasmus YES! Hortico sends good bareroot plants budded on new seedlings (as rootstock) to prevent the spread of virus. Some varieties are bigger than others, but that’s due to the variety’s vigor. Because of their conscientious and transparent policy against spreading virus, Hortico is my preferred source for roses in general, but especially for David Austin roses. 30% of my roses gotten directly from DA-USA have been virused. They will replace them for you, but don’t actively hold their growers accountable for spreading virus, and so the vicious cycle continues indefinitely. I have a suspicion that some of their mother plants are virused, I don’t think it’s possible to find a clean plant of Constance Spry in North America unless it’s been indexed by UC Davis. Even though shipping is higher from Canada, Hortico’s DA’s are $19 each as opposed to DA-USA’s price of $28. I have no affiliation with Hortico, but support and promote them because I like the way they conduct business, and don’t want them to close permanently like Pickering. They’re a family owned mom & pop shop. On the other hand, I personally feel that David Austin, Inc. is rich enough as it is, and abhor their plant patent politics. They are my last resort if I can’t find it somewhere else....See MoreA new source of vintage David Austin Roses
Comments (160)Below is what I notice in my garden of 150+ fragrant own root roses: 1) Own roots that can take high humidity with healthy leaves in my rooting bin, even with constant condensation (water) on leaves & stems. These can take extreme humidity yet have 100% healthy leaves, even with poor drainage if the soil is NOT acidic. Evelyn, W.S. 2000, Mary Magdalene, Christopher Marlowe, Pat Austin, Queen of Sweden, James Galway, Dee-lish, the Dark Lady, Spirit of Freedom, Tchaikovsky, Purple Lodge. 2) Own roots with healthy leaves with humidity, if the drainage is fast, plus liming on top to neutralize acidic rain: Abraham Darby, Crown princess Magareta, Tess of d'Ubervilles, A Shopshire Lad, Radio times, Well Being, Augusta Luis, Sonia Rykiel, Yves Piaget child. 3) Own roots that blackspots with high humidity despite fast draining or liming, and need constant potassium fertilizer to stay healthy: Golden Celebration, Carding Mill, the Squire, Gertrude Jekyll, St. Cecilia, Firefighter, Comte de Chambord. 4) Own roots with THICK LEAVES which rabbits don't eat: Evelyn leaves are thicker than Abe. Tchaikosky leaves are thick like Augusta Luis, Christopher Malowe leaves are thick like James Galway and Purple Lodge. Crown Princess Mag, Strike it Rich and About Face have thicker leaves than Cading Mill. Never see blackspots on Chris, Evelyn, Tchaikosky nor James Galway. 5) Own roots with THIN LEAVES which rabbits devour: Abe. Darby, Munstead Wood, W.S. 2000, Sonia Rykiel, Well Being Golden Cel., Firefighter, Boscobel, and Comte de Chambord. The above are my observation with own-roots in my garden plus rootings in humid bins of Evelyn, Dee-lish, W.S. 2000, Spirit of Freedom, Christopher Marlowe, The Dark Lady, The Squire, Augusta Luis, James Galway, Mary Magdalene, Abraham Darby, Sonia Rykiel, Dee-lish, Golden Celebration, Gertrude Jekyll, Radio Times, Pat Austin, Well Being, Tchaikovsky, Crown Princess Mag., Purple Lodge, thornless Yves Piaget child. *** Princess Anne is touted as very healthy, but as its roots mature in its 5th-year, it's prone to blackspots in my poor drainage clay. Some Austins have chunky & woody root that rot fast in standing acidic rain water like Princess Anne. Some own-root starts out as healthy cluster roots, then matures to chunky & woody (like Dr.Huey-rootstock) and become more Blackspot-prone in later years like Princess Anne. Other Austins like W.S. 2000 have cluster-root (similar to multiflora) that does not rot in acidic rain, thus zero blackspots even as 12th-year-own-root. Leaves of W.S. 2000 and Evelyn have NO blackspots in high humidity rooting bin. Evelyn can take high rain and poor drainage clay better than Abraham Darby (best bloomer for hot & dry and alkaline climate). A Abe. Darby & Sonia Rykiel & Well-Being need a higher pH and all 3 bloom well with my alkaline tap water at pH 9, thus best for hot & dry climate. Below are pics. of W.S. 2000 being healthy, it's right next to the rainspout dumping tons of acidic rain at pH 4.5, note the pale leaves: Below pic. of Evely was taken July 24, after week-long rain, I never see blackspots on it in its 12 years as own-root, if biochar at pH 8.6 is given before a rainy month. Note Evelyn's paler leaves than Abe. Darby:...See MoreUpdate on David Austin Roses in USA?
Comments (25)God Bless @cyndita (west coast zone 9)!!! I had checked the website @ about 6:00 a.m. this morning, still "not in stock" so went to my local nursery for their opening bare root day -- and just checked my email to see if I'd got a message I was waiting for, when I saw your post pop up!! So I ordered my GO & EV in my car, and then texted a good friend who's been waiting on EV. So HOORAY! Now I have to see if they'll combine my previous order for Heritage. And apparently I also ordered Sceptred Isle when I ordered Heritage, though I literally don't recall doing that. Anyone ever grow SI? In other news, I bought an Arctic Blue today at the nursery. I'm waiting for my Palatine Sweet Delight, and then my M.A.C. from Heirloom. Then I think I'm done...and in the meantime, I don't have room for GO and SD - so wlll have to shuffle... Anyway -- thank you again, Cyndita!...See Morehenry_kuska
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