Spatchcocking question -- how long to cook?
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Comments (12)I realized I might be coming across as a bit arrogant in my assertion that bathrooms can be done quickly. Please believe me when I say my intent is not at all "look how fast we are, what's wrong with the rest of you." I just am baffled by contractors who say it'll take a month, and am trying to paint a more realistic picture of what I think is reasonable. We've had plenty of oops and rework along the way (there's nothing like tipping a wall frame up and realizing you cut all the studs an inch and a half too long), and as I'm typing it's 11:30 and Mr. Weedy is still finishing up the shower valve so the inspector can do the framing/rough-in inspection in the morning. Anyway, Mr. Weedy was the plumber again all day. He started with the tub and after putting together the drain assembly, realized it wouldn't work with the rough-in. The tub drain was positioned over the rough-in drain, but it has to connect with the drain from the overflow, making it 8 inches off. Plus that connection is typically under the subfloor, so we ended up having to build a 4" high platform for the tub and toilet to sit on, giving us enough below-subfloor room to do the drain. Here's the tub on its new platform. Other than some supporting carpentry, I was left to work elsewhere in the basement, so I worked on framing the bedroom (including closet and soffit) along with BIL, who's now ready to finish the rest of the basement on his own. :-) Kid brother, meanwhile, finished up the subfloor (another 400 square feet or so). That entailed moving a ton of stuff outside and then back in again. Fortunately 7 kids and 14 hands make light work. I suggested they do a "clean sweep" with it while it was outside, but we didn't quite get to it. Here's the clutter pile. And here's the finished subfloor. After dinner, sis put the FG batts in the walls. We showed them how to finish installing the tub wall panels after the inspection and before drywall. We're heading out at the crack of dawn to another sister's, who lives 2 hours away. We'll help her out with stuff for a few days (last year's Christmas gift) while the drywall guy does his thing. We'll be back on Monday to button things up. Fingers crossed for the inspector to pass everything!...See MoreSpatchcocking?
Comments (22)450 degrees the whole time. The attached article says they cooked it for 70 minutes for a 12 pound bird. Which is about right; mine was a few minutes less, but my bird was 11 1/4 pounds. I would put them both in the oven and rotate, but that's just me. Obviously, I would do the dry brining a couple of days before and then proceed with their recipe, but just in case anyone was wondering ((smiles)) Here's the recipe they used on my first link: Serves 8 TO 10 INGREDIENTS 2 tablespoons extra-virgin olive oil 1 tablespoon coarse salt 1 teaspoon freshly ground pepper 1 whole fresh turkey (about 12 pounds) DIRECTIONS 1. Preheat oven to 450ð. Stir together oil, salt, and pepper in a small bowl. 2. Rinse inside and outside of turkey; pat dry with paper towels. Spatchcock turkey*. Transfer to a rimmed baking sheet, breast side up. Let stand for 30 minutes. 3. Brush or rub turkey all over with oil mixture. Roast, rotating sheet halfway through and basting twice, until an instant-read thermometer inserted into the thickest part of the thigh reaches 165ð, about 1 hour and 10 minutes. Let stand for 20 minutes before carving....See MoreDo You Love To Cook? Cook A Lot? Multiple Cook Family?
Comments (27)This thread, which I didn't catch the first time around, made me think. In general, I cook to eat and feed my family. However, I do enjoy baking for special occasions. I think that if I didn't work outside the home I would cook more...and be more adventurous. But, I work and have a long commute so by the time I get home I have to make fast meals with little time for creativity or major prep work. So, we eat a lot of frozen veggies--as is out of the bag, pre-cooked meats warmed up, pasta, soup, occasionally waffles/pancakes/eggs, potatoes, etc. I.e., for the most part things that I can cook fast. One up side to this is that our meals haven't changed that much w/o a kitchen since we do have a MW, Toaster Oven, and hot plate to cook with! One very big downside to this, though, is that my children are not learning to cook like I did from my mom. Back on topic... After finding this site and reading about zones, I realized that one thing that I really wanted was a baking center. So when my kitchen was being designed I had it in the back of my head that whatever we ended up with had to have an area I could designate my "Baking Zone", preferably near the ovens--with room to roll out dough, spread out cookie sheets, and have cookie cutters spread out all at the same time! The other thing I got from this site was our window...having the window down to the counter (OK, not cooking-related, but a very important design element!) Our very first plan that our KD came up with had input from us...but a very naive/ignorant us! (Before GW...BGW!) Then....I found this site.....and the changes began. Actually, I posted that original plan and asked for help (and also asked my KD to start over w/no island) Many, many people here helped me come up with a plan over several weeks (months?). We finally came up with a plan that has changed little since then. Interestingly, when I took away the island "must have", my KD came up with a plan very similar to what we came up with here. The only 3 differences were (1) no mini peninsula, (2) a 36" pantry cabinet rather than a corner pantry, and (3) no separate Message Center cabinets. My KD wasn't completely happy w/our differences, but she, wisely I thought, told me to go home and mock up what I wanted to see how it would work (same advice I got here!) Well, the mock up was great! It proved that I did indeed want the mini peninsula (I liked it so much I left the mock up in place until demo and used it!) When I told her the results, she didn't argue, she accepted it telling me it's my kitchen, so ultimately it's up to me. So in the end, my design was/is based on what I wanted, not what the KD wanted. [If only someone else had measured my kitchen and she was given more authority, I think a lot of subsequent problems would have been avoided.] Our kitchen isn't done yet, but it's close...so I can't yet tell you how it is going to work for us...but we are so......See Morespatchcock turkey help, pls
Comments (28)D'oh, I should have checked Cooking Forum, too! Oh, well, I'll remember next time. Thanks to Sophie's tip, I was able to crack the breast bone and get the bird to lay flat and symmetrical. It looked great going in and coming out. But ... eh, don't think I'll try that again. Contrary to everything I've read about the benefits of spatchcocking, it did not cook evenly. We checked temps in a few places and got readings that were at least 10 deg - and often more - apart. No idea what I did wrong. Instead of eating at 2:30, we sat down at nearly 4pm. It looked gorgeous and tasted good but it really messed with my T-day timeline. Thankfully, our good friends (more like family) were really good-natured about the delay (we'll just drink more wine!). Never did get any KAW pics, I was in crazy prep mode the whole time and forgot until we sat down to eat (finally!) and I didn't feel like getting up to take pics. Anyhoo, I'm going back to the way I used to make turkey using Emeril's Brined Turkey recipe. It's a bit of a pain to haul a big bird out of the brine and rinse it but it came out juicy and delicious every time. And on time! Oh, but the kitchen worked great! Love having an island with nothing but counter for prep and staging between oven and DR, etc....See More- 5 months ago
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