UPDATE: I got my new gas range (and fridge)!
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I need a gas range for the new century
Comments (21)suzanne, the pilot light... My DH and I had this conversation a while back when we had to replace our oven ignitor.... An option is a true commercial range with a pilot in the oven.... (are you allowed to do that?) If you are set on a pilot oven, I would look into it. Most modern gas ovens use a ceramic glow plug type of ignitor. These will burn out after so many cycles of lighting. (There are only so many variations on these parts and they are similar in performance. There are no ignitors that last forever. I replaced my Viking ignitor with el cheapo after marker part and it works fine.) If you or the spouse is DIY sort, then you can replace these for about $50 to $100 (Viking part would have cost me $300, yikes!). If not, you gotta call the service guy, which is always a few hundred dollars please... This is what makes owning "all gas oven" expensive this day and age. (your gas furnace will have the similar repair record if you switch to efficient pilotless furnace.) There goes your savings from the efficiency that "compounded" for a few years. So for your total pocket book cost, there is absolutely no savings from the increased efficiency. Some brands may have a better "performance" on this part than others but you will have to deal with it in decades of owning the oven eventually. They simply don't make ovens with pilot light anymore, as were the vintage ranges. Even the "new" vintage looking gas ranges don't have a pilot light. Pilot lights are much simpler way of dealing with ignition. The electronic ignitor is the same part (all of them look almost identical) that turns on your gas furnace, gas BBQ etc. (Maybe this is a reason to stick to a true vintage range with pilot light... Hm) all gas ranges are just about the simplest thing there is. You have an ignitor plus a flame adjustor, which is often a mechanical valve for letting more gas to the burner. Even if you don't have electricity, you can use a match to cook. All new gas cooktops come with electronic clicky starter. Even if that goes out, you can just use a match and start the coktop. My partner has an ancient Wolf gas cooktop that has burned out the electronic starter many years ago and he uses matches.... Cheaper than calling in the dude to fix it. Prostyle ranges such as Viking and Bluestar come in many tens of colors. They also come in 24 inch, which may help your tiny kitchen remodel. (not sure about Wolf) I would NOT say that your only option is SS. Yes, there is that issue of "cost". For example, if you can find an all gas pro style range used, it should last you a long time.... Again, the infrared gas broiler uses a similar type of ignitor with a mesh of ceramic that heats up instead of a burner. There are no electronics per se to break down but there is that ignitor once again will go out.... Then, there is a fan for convection. Electrical motors are rather sturdy beasts and do not go out too often.... Even if the convection fan went, out you CAN still bake without it. I used to have a gas range with the control behind the stove. That range needed to have the computer panel replaced after a few years, which we did ourselves... They are ugly and impractical. You already seem to know the limitations. I suggest getting open burners(which I agree with Amcook but that is another story) and with something that has minimal electronics.... Viking, Wolf and Bluestar are options. My "colored" Viking all gas range with open burners practically has NOTHING built in it. There simply is not much to break.... No self clean. No temp probe. No timer etc etc. I am keeping it at 10 year mark even though I am remodeling and spending many $ for the entire kitchen. There is nothing wrong with it. I can't see myself doing better at this point.... I think I would have replaced it if it was SS....See MoreGot scared with turning on my new Wolf range for the first time
Comments (1)Call Wolf's customer service in the morning -- they are great and will know how the range shipped and should have been installer. I'm wondering if some packing material was left inside and burned, but it also sounds like you may not have gone through the cleaning you need to do first. My oven had directions to wipe down all the interior surfaces before turning it on an then doing an initial burn off. I can't think of anything like what you described inside though....See Moreupdate on my 40 vs. 50 amp, induction vs. gas range dilemma
Comments (4)Hey, that's great! I am also springing for the upgraded electrical for an induction cooktop. Based on my use of a portable unit while we are sans kitchen, I think it's a great decision!...See Moregot my new Electrolux induction range yesterday
Comments (20)I absolutely LOVED my Electrolux induction range. My friend was so impressed with this stove that she bought her own (a slide-in) about a year later. Last year, after 4 1/2 years of use, my stove died ....there was a loud 'pop' after I'd boiled a kettle, then the control panel went blank. Absolutely no power. The oven still worked, though. The next morning, I thought I'd just try to turn it on and....magically, IT WORKED!! It continued to work for 2 days....I thought it was a miracle. But then while I had the large burner on, there was a HUGE 'bang', along with some some out of the back, the panel went black, then flashed an error code. My induction top was now definitely, without a doubt, officially dead and I discovered that the part to fix it cost $700 and the labour at least another $700 (CDN). Our 4 year extended warranty no longer covered it. We ended up buying a new stove (kenmore elite induction, plus an extended warranty...through Sears outlet for a little less than what it would have cost us to fix the Electrolux). The kenmore is ok. The induction burners work like the Electrolux, but I really preferred almost everything about the Electrolux to the kenmore...except for the fact that it died after a crazy short time of owning it! For that reason alone, I would never buy another Electrolux, no matter how much I might want to. Earlier I had read about similar consumer complaints, but I thought that they were probably aberrations, or the odd lemon...but I don't think that is the case........ Last week my friend called to tell me that her Electrolux induction top had also just died!! Luckily for her, though, they bought an extended 5 year warranty and are covered. I do NOT recommend this stove...range or slide-in....and offer my stories as a warning to others. Go ahead and buy it if you have lots of money, can afford the extended warranty, and can still afford to spend $1500 for repairs or more if you need to replace the unit!...See More- 4 months ago
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