Saturday and alls well, went to work at 6 this morning(had to drive an hour away) and got back home about 3:30. Not to bad for an inventory day. Tomorrow I go back but probably will only be a ½ day situation. V, my best wishes to your Cubs. Ive always had a soft spot for them and will most likely root for them in the playoffs . Bet the poor old Brewskies though they had it dialed into after holding the lead for most of the season. What strength of character you show Denise-resisting the urge to pilfer an agave pup. I would suspect that no one at that shopping center gives a rats a*** for that agave and that your theft would go unnoticed-however you didnt hear it from me ! (Betcha if you called the property manager you could get permission !) Well, I must say that even at my worst I never caught my hair on fire lol ! I did have my share of experiences in and around Sunset Blvd though. Do you remember Wallachs Music City on Sunset and Vine??? I will be sure to take the Idylls house-hunting with me ! Hey , did you ask about noisettes? The only one I have right now is Boule de Neige , and will absolutely have Madame Alfred Carriere one day. If I had to pick. Mme Alfred would win the day. Martie, I have Star of Yelta which is quite similar to Grandpa Ott, and it re-seeds like mad. This year I was not diligent enough in my thinning and it has engulfed Sombrieuil and one of my Rudbeckias. I agree that I need to be careful with how I spend my house sale prep bucks. My house will list in the 675k range. 2 to 5k is a drop in the bucket. I expect to spend 10, mostly in plumbing issues and kitchen and window upgrades. Hiya Brenda-glad you checked in..sounds like you are a busy lady-its that harvest thing. The harvest season is quite intense here in Napa, and the company I work for furnishes many supplies to the vineyard folk. Eden, Im all for Reed listening to Cinderella , especially the Rogers and Hammerstein version- I did not discriminate gender wise and my son is even more into show tunes now than DD. When we did car trips in their younger days the soundtracks were a great way to keep them entertained. Oklahoma was definitely a favorite ! The address for Creepy Guy has been sent. I am pondering his visit . (oh, and my kids were also very fond of a video I taped of Sweeney Todd with Angela in her glory-I edited out the gory stuff. !) Ok everyone, I have some chores to do and some baseball to watch. Catch yall later ! Kathy in Napa

Wow. Somebody asks about generalizations and gets a bloodied keyboard. The original poster made some general observations about her group. Wanted to know if this held up to what other people are are seeing. Somebody jumps up, takes the general observations as pigeon-holing, and takes it personally, even defending her/him self against something that was not mentioned until that point. Keep in mind that this is a forum that just about anybody can post on. If you think the subject is silly, accusatory or doesn't apply to you, then move on. To come back on and belabor the point is a bit much. Generalizations (and the "wondering" of the original poster might not even be that) are just that, general. It means not everybody adheres to all the generalizations equally. For somebody to stand and pointedly tell somebody else that they aren't like the "generalizations" is excessive. It is acting like somebody pointed a finger at you, like you are so affronted that somebody would call you ______ (fill in the blank). That feeling compels them to come back and explain in detail why they are different. Harsh, or egotistical, neither is pretty. If I were to come on here and make a generalization that all Agaves are succulents, somebody, somewhere in the world would come up with one growing in the swamp. Great, but maybe the generalization still holds. It also was said that the original poster's (o.p.) Cactus club was urban. Didn't read that from her. It also was implied that the o.p. said she was familiar with a Cactus club being a "lonely heart's club. Really? The the o.p.'s words were thrown back at her. First of all, Urban Northern Ohio were your words, Wantonamara. You have obviously never been there. To call it Urban Northern Ohio shows that you have decided that northern Ohio must all be urban. Mostly farms from Cleveland to Indiana. Go there sometimes, the farms are much more prosperous that anything you'll see west of Abilene. Generalizing here. It cuts lots of ways this generalization thing. I don't often post here, and I didn't for years because of the hard tone some people take. I was here when Spike Hernandez (his pseudonym) opened up shop in about 1996. I've seen that hard attitude drive very knowledgeable out, not that they were involved in the kerfuffle, but who wants to read somebody's attitude. I know I'll avoid opening some posts now (including this one ever again), and if 10 people do that it gets quiet around here. Drama is best left to live plays and old movies.

Love it Sue!!! Jgbm: I wish I had the time to learn!! Maybe someday when I'm not up to my eyeballs in kid activities and work. As for Miley, if you knew my friend who had the nerve to dress up in it, you'd find it a riot too! It wasn't quite as revealing as the real one and she wore a miniskirt with it. I didn't think anyone would have the nerve to do it. As much as I can't stand Miley, for an adult only party it was hilarious.

I generally don't cut my plants but at some point I should cut a branch of my Magnolia 'Frosty Pale Purple' to see how strong it is when placed inside. In the garden it is one of the most strong and cutting fragrances. It's very ethereal, almost like the 'purple primer' used for PVC pipe welding. Perhaps fitting because the flowers are purple! It would probably be too strong for some people's taste but I love it.