Keep this prep sink or get rid of it?
I have kind of an oddly arranged kitchen. I have new cabinet fronts coming in and a new 9’ long island. You can’t tell from the photos, but the darkly stained wood does not look the best up close.
I want to replace the island sink or maybe get rid of it. The current sink is 14” wide. I think if I replace it, I should go a little bigger? What are some good brands other than Julien (I love my Julien kitchen sink, but too expensive to put one in the island).
Part of me wonders if I even need the island sink. I dont use it except to fill the dog water bowls, but I also don’t cook My friend who cooks says she used it a lot when she was here. The co. putting in the cabinets likes how it balances the cooktop. I admit that I do too. I could look at moving the cooktop to the center if I remove the sink.
I really hate ss because of the hard water here, but I don’t think I have a choice. I have mint color sinks for the pantry area and the bar. I considered for the island, but they don’t make the smaller sizes anymore. Maybe I am overthinking all this!
Thank you!
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Comments (21)Green Designs came up with a great plan, as usual. It's very similar to my new kitchen. The aisle between my 9' island with prep sink and the rangetop wall is about 42" counter to counter. Its perfect. I've had much larger aisles and hated them. In fact, that's one of the reasons I reno'd my old kitchen. I'm the sole cook in my kitchen 99% of the time, and I would never, ever, ever give up my prep sink. Ever. I love having a large prep zone with a dedicated water source that I don't have to share with the cleanup zone. I'm usually the one who does the dishes too, but when DH occasionally does that when I'm cooking, he can do it out of my way. This kitchen is my first experience with separate prep and cleanup sinks, but it has changed my cooking habits and way of looking at things in the kitchen. You will not use the sink on the perimeter to prep the way you laid out the space. It's not convenient for daily prep. It is a great place for a cleanup sink. Being over on the side like that, your dirty dishes won't show much. Mine don't. Between the giant single basin cleanup sink and the perimeter location, the few dirty dishes waiting on the counter for the DW don't both my OCDness very much. And as you can see, my kitchen is open or at least semi-open to all the other rooms in the house and to the front door. I much prefer an island being all one height rather than bi-level. Your first inspiration pic island is one height. At one level, you can spread out for large baking/cooking projects and for school, sewing or crafting projects. A large kitchen doesn't have to have wasted space. It just needs to be laid out correctly so you have the right amount of space in the right zones. I agree with everything Holly said. I think you could have a great kitchen here!...See MorePrep area next to sink or prep area next to cooktop?
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28 days agolast modified: 28 days agoThank you all! The mint sinks are by elkay. I have an adorable cute one in the bar as well.
The dog water is a great idea, but they really are fed and watered on the other side of the house. This is the closest sink to that area.
@jan moyer Thanks! I really appreciate your comment. I had a vent fan built into the ceiling above, but removed it when I get rid of the dropped ceiling over the cooktop. I never used it. I might use the cooktop for boiling water a couple times a year, but even that I don't do much now that I can make noodles in the microwave. I know this kitchen is not set up for a cook. I don't think there is much I can do at this point to change it. Is there anything else you would do? I think the island has to stay where it is. You can see views of the city and it frames the kitchen. The floorplan is open and it's a historic home.
@anj_p I'll look into moving the cooktop over a little when I get home tonight. I'll keep the sink small close to the same size. :)
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28 days agolast modified: 28 days ago@jan moyer You are so awesome. Thank you for your comment. :) I am exactly that person. Do you think three mint sinks is too many? Bar, island, and pantry area? I may have trouble finding a mint one in the small size. Kohler makes a green sink but I was thinking two mint sinks and green sink would be strange?
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