Seedlings with potential 2024
This second seedling post is for daylilies you feel have potential to be great. Please show us some more!
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shive
2 months agolast modified: 2 months agoSherry - Thanks for posting another terrific garden shot! I love seeing your phloxes in your mixed plantings. I used to grow several years ago, but a three-year drought back in the early 2000s killed them all. Which ones do you have?
I have a bad habit of thinking all my seedlings have potential to be great. Most do not, and it's hard to cull them. I'll start with the ones that have the greatest potential and may someday be registered.
$exy Samantha X Bubblegum Delicious #1 - This is a semi-evergreen from that cross with the best bud count and reblooms. Last year, which was horrible, it had tall 27-inch scapes and 13 buds. In 2021 it had 17 buds. However, it is a slower multiplier. It is a lavender pink with a ruffly white edge.
Clump of the above seedling
This dormant has an 8-inch bloom on 26-inch scapes. I wish it had taller scapes since it has such a giant bloom. Parentage is questionable. In 2022 it had a scape with 18 buds and rebloomed. Last year the bud count was low - 9-10. Has multiplied slowly in the two-year drought. May have had the roots devoured by grubs.
Dancing Flamingo kid - Dormant that multiplies rapidly and had 18 buds on its maiden bloom in 2021. In the two subsequent drought years, it has only gotten a bud count of 10-13. Eight-inch bloom on 34-inch scapes.
Clump shot
I have two seedlings from Pink Extraordinaire X $exy Samantha that I think are special.Pink Ex X SS #2 is an evergreen that multliplies fast. First blooms are 7+ inches, and in the first year it bloomed it had 28-inch scapes. So far it's had only 13 buds per scape. Reliable rebloomer. Here are some of its different looks:
With temps in the high 90s and no rain
Early group shot still showing a bit of thrip damage
Pink Ex X SS #4 - This one is shorter and has a six-inch bloom. It multiplies OK and always reblooms. The highest bud count so far is 12. It's an evergreen with super lavender purple colors.
I'm fond of several of my White Tooth seedlings. Most of them are terrific rebloomers.White Tooth X Skater #4 is likely to be registered someday. It's a semi-evergreen with a 7-inch bloom on 34-inch scapes with three and four-way branching. Last year it had 14 buds. I have to think in a year with better rain, it would get more buds than that. Great multiplier and rebloomer. Extremely fertile. I think the patterned sepals make it distinctive among toothy daylilies.
Rebloom shot showing more teeth than early on.
Early picture showing darker color when temps were cool.
White Tooth X Skater #3 - This one has a six-inch bloom on 32-inch scapes. It got 18 buds on rebloom last year. A semi-evergreen, it's a very slow multiplier. but one that still looks good at the end of a 97-degree day. Very clear colors. Fertile both ways.Early picture from when temps were cooler.
Late afternoon shot on a 97-degree day.
White Tooth X Skater #5 - This one is evergreen and has had short scapes both years it's bloomed in the drought. It likely had some trouble with grubs. It's a 7 inch bloom on 22-25 inch scapes so far. Burgundy purple in color with a velvet back eye and super white teeth. Great multiplier and rebloomer. Fertile both ways.
Group shot
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2 months agolast modified: 2 months agoI'll put our futures in this post. These are all lined out (except for one) and ready to be introduced in 2025 (if I get some decent stats) and if they prove that they will divide well. I won't talk about stats mostly because I don't have most of them recorded yet.
This seedling is one of our favorites. It is Lady Stephanie Victoria Redding X Rosy Spiketail. It is either mid-late or a late bloomer. I originally thought it was late, but last year it seemed to be more mid-late.
I really like the broad petals on All of My Love to You X Randy Stephens.
We told our daughter we were going to name a daylily to commemorate her honeymoon in the Bahamas. She requested a tropical colored one. I think this one fits that description. It is Apricot Symphony X Sea of Cinders.
Bob loves this one. It is Chomp X Happy Holidays to you.
This is actually our daughter's seedling. It is Dental Delight X Happy Teeth.
These next two are sibs and are easy to get mixed up. They are Pineapple Bites X Wandering Werribee. I don't know yet which one will be registered--maybe even both.
This is Ruffled Strawberry Parfait X Sonoran Desert Rose. Sonoran Desert Rose tends to give vigorous seedlings and this one is no exception. At three years old the scape was 50 inches. It lost a lot of height when we moved it, but it still is tall and well budded. It is also a late or maybe even very late bloomer.
We moved Strawberry Romance X Empire of Dawn and Dusk. We were shocked at how big the clump was when we moved it, which leads us to believe that a sibling might be mixed in with it. We lined it out in single fans so we can get any sibs taken out. It has a nice scape and good bud count.
This last one, as you might imagine, is very exciting for us. We love this flower. It is a bitone with ruffles and some teeth and a halo with slightyly sculpted throat--a lot going on in this flower. Sometimes the sepals don't curl much. Usually I don't like sepals that stick straight out, but I don't mind it on this flower. We already have a name picked out for this one.
We have quite a few earmarked for 2026 too. Many of these were crushed so we have to find them and line them out. I'll post a few of those later.Nancy
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Comments (10)Hi Richard, Looks like a lot of potential there. I'm glad I'm not in your shoes when the culling starts, where would you start? Probably be better to buy a few acres somewhere handy and grow them all to maturity so you don't toss any gooduns. Thanks for sharing and please keep the progress pic's coming. All the best, Nev....See MoreLessons from the 2023 garden - dreaming of 2024
Comments (23)For the longest time, I pretty much operated a gardening free-for-all...which was insanely labour extensive, frequently on the verge of chaos, shunned by family and friends. I made absolutely no concession to age, agility, maintenance demands, space, climate....and as I especially enjoy raising my own plants from seed, you do tend to end up with quite a lot Unsurprisingly, it all got a bit out of hand. I would have had to think quite hard to come up with lessons I had learned (none). Anyway, after a season of falling over more than usual (tripping over tangling vines and dodgy edging boards), as well as being lashed by vicious thorny briars, I bought a sort of mini-chainsaw pruner and set about editing. I have (mostly) got the roses in hand (discovering parts of the plot I have not stepped for a decade) and grubbed out many of the ancient currants, And decided I was not going to be guilted into anymore manic vegetable growing (I am a reluctant cook), The biggest change though, has been to row back on my habit of growing far too many annual and biennial flowers, especially since I no longer have a raft of gratefully impressed customers and my offspring grow their own: I had to resort to planting the extras in the local cemetery and various public spaces. Pruning: As a terrible meddler, experimental pruning was the basis of much of my novice garden training. There is ALWAYS a load of this when you work as a jobbing gardener and growing large roses and a lot of fruit trees and bushes means the secateurs are always busy. However, the dilemma of pruning still confounds me since one of the very first dictums I learned at hort.school was 'growth follows the knife'...which it certainly does. Initially, chopping back the roses opened the plot up to a lot of light and space but the furious rose plants grew back with a vengeance...and all at exactly the height where they could inflict major damage to eyes. Prior to the great cutback, the most unpleasant surprise usually entailed a painful puncture on the top of my head, from some wayward branch but now it was turning into a bodyline massacre. Had no choice apart from the spade. I took cuttings of many of the removals but I am currently ignoring the numerous buckets of hardwood cuttings, all awaiting planting holes...somewhere. I grubbed out a lot of the fruits with a sigh of relief at no longer needing to spend many,many hours picking and preserving (there are jars of redcurrant and bramble jelly going back years in the larder). I have had the allotment for 20+ years and finally, I decided to attempt to build a garden rather than a random collection of plants...but have had a painful and confusing time deciding what sort of garden I want. Over the years, I have been a helpless dilettante, with shiny new enthusiasms every single season. I have grown (and killed) an unconscionable number of plants...and the plot still looked a mess. However, I have set a few ground rules and am replanting the old vegetable beds with plants which will need no irrigation (quite an ask, living in the dryest part of the UK). More important (to me) is an honest attempt to rediscover some sort of genius loci - a spririt of place, or a set of plants which are perfectly at home in the flat, open fenlands, growing in harmony with the resident fauna and weeds and wildflowers. It is still in it's early stage - I planted up 3 new beds this year - but I have a sort of guiding principle and am learning that restrictions and obstacles are more helpful than negative, making this undisciplined gardener make measured choices instead of random whims. This seems like a potentially more fruitful route to building a coherent, aesthetic and sustainable garden. Plus, the perennials I have been tenderly growing can finally be planted in spaces which have been prepared, considered and planned (and not the random plonking which characterised my garden (ahem) 'style'. Onwards and upwards. And on another topic altogether, I have been watching a series on BBC about American gardens. Sadly,it is helmed by the odious Monty Don and an unfortunate eurocentric (English, really) direction...while Don manages to be both obsequious to the great and good and hugely condescending to gardeners with less social and financial capital. But if you can get IPlayer, do check the series out. And grit your teeth (although Don seems bizarrely popular in the US). 'Monty Don's American Gardens'...just the title alone is enraging, but if I didn't let it put me off, I am sure you will manage to find something to enjoy....See MoreT daylilies 2024
Comments (16)I see that To God Be the Glory is a huge bloom out of Seminole Wind. Tangerine Tickles is an appealing color (a Grossman). I also like the colors of Thundering Voice (seldom see it pictured) and the peachy pink tones of These Foolish Things. After years of hearing the praises of The Bride of Dracula, I ordered it. Tyger River, a bonus, has not performed well. 29 Flags over Conway looked pretty good last year. Thelma Douglas has had crowded scapes and hang-ups. Also, short last year. I am now wary of its progeny. Individual flowers can be beautiful. The X Files is a striking flower. I am waiting to evaluate plant habit. The King is Coming has not been a fast increaser (Carpenter), but had some nice blooms last summer. Not tall. The Goldilocks Effect is an older Hanson. Had an off year, but I wonder why it isn't more widely grown, as it has an intensity greater than other polychromes I know. Tattered Heart had such a good year in 2022 (pictured), but much less impressive this past summer (to the right is Drew Hoo). I too like Thomas Tew (good taller scapes). Sib Christopher Moody was shorter with lower bud count. Tahiti Sweetie looked good last summer. It sometimes has lighter spots on segments. The sun shot adds a glisten, but it stands out. Teeth of Iron --slow increase Tactical Deception --vigorous and attractive smoky color. Hanson. Tao of Physic --looked better last summer than in prior years Emmerich's Truth Teller. Held up better in sun this year. Tickle Fingers --so far, less vigorous than some other Davissons The Dream Society had a very good year. Later blooming. Twitch --a more recent Davisson Tahitian Waterfall Two Sues had an off year. Tonight's the Night --rich color. Wish it were a bit larger, but nicely ruffled. The Food Channel Tar and Feather made a splash of color in the early season. Very dark eye....See MoreX, Y and Z daylilies 2024……..Seedling posts to come next
Comments (10)Sherry and Brad: I always thought that /Debra's Zuzu's Treasure was a pretty one with that recurved form and delicate coloring.....Nan: Yellow Daffodil looks like a yellow daffodil. I was surprised yesterday when I spotted some in bloom around town. It was just 16 degrees last week-end, and yet the dafs are starting to bloom already. It's like they said we are coming up no matter what the temperature is...........Kate: What a nice clump shot of Yazoo Elsie Hinton. Very pretty........I only have two under this header. My old favorite that's been with me since almost the beginning: Yesterday Memories: Zac Attack was down to one fan last year after overwintering outdoors. It spent this winter in the garage. Our last 3-4 winters have done a number on my outdoor overwintering sevs. I've lost more again this winter. ZAC Attack. Does remarkably well in our heat given some PM shade: Maryl...See More
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2 months agoDebra, I like the Dancing Flamingo kid and $exy Samantha X Bubblegum Delicious #1. I hope they do well!
Nancy, I like Apricot Symphony X Sea of Cinders the best of yours.
Bombay Silk x Vintage Wine, 7", 36". bud count range from 12-24 2nd year [better bud count [24] the first year] multiplies very quickly.
Carmen Renee x the Last Melon, 7" 34", 23 & 34 buds. 2nd year, multiplies quickly.
VT Rose Rosy x North Wind Dancer, 7", 39", 36 buds, sometimes striped. First year
sibling to above, 7", 28", 12 buds, first year.
sibling to above, 15 buds, 7", 37", first year.
Wind Frills x VT rose rosy, 7", 15", 12 buds first year
Full Grown x Chance Encounter 2 scapes of each, 7", 25", 8-14 buds, 2nd year
Vintage Wine x ? 7", 32", 17 buds, first year
sibling to above, 9", 23-28", 8, 10, 11 buds, first year
There are a few others but I'll stop here.
Brad
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2 months agoDebra, you are producing such lovely pinks. All of the $exy Samantha offspring are lovely. I also like the White Tooth X Skater seedlings especially the first one. The Dancing Flamingo kid is outstanding.
This next group of seedlings are futures for 2026. Many of these were in the 'crush zone' so we have to identify them and line them out this year.
This one is a Fulva offspring. It is (Fulva Korean X Empire of Dawn and Dusk) X Sonoran Desert Rose. It is tall with a nice sized flower. Many of the first generation of fulva have small flowers, but the size comes back in the second.
Who would think that you could get this color from crossing two dark reds with black eyes. This is Burgundy Eye Shadow X Heavenly Tiger Tails. It is a smallish flower--about 5 inches but quite the performer as you can see.
Bob really like this one. It is Wandering Werribee X But Wait, There's More. It blooms relatively late.
This is Munchy Crunchy X Sonoran Desert Rose. This is it blooming in August. I assume it is a late bloomer. I don't remember it blooming earlier.
Never Too Late X Mitch Lynd is another smallish late bloomer.
I was hoping to rregister this one for next year, but sadly, it is in the 'crush zone'.
Rocket Blast X Raggedy Man has interesting color.
Sea of Cinders X Happy Holidays to You will be registered whether or not we sell any of it. It has a petite plant habit like its pollen parent, but it is proving to be a good parent if you cross it with something tall and vigorous.
This one is Shores of Time X Wolverine. I think the color is an improvement on Wolverine's color, but unfortunately, we lost the teeth.
I'll post the last set later.Nancy
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2 months agoHere are my last ones.
I would love to register Chomp X Ruffled Strawberry Parfait, but I don't know if the stats are good enough. It is a very late bloomer in our garden.
So Beautiful to Me X Sonoran Desert Rose is in the 'crush zone'. There are two other siblings that are good growers. We need to decide which one is the best. The color differs on them--some more apricot and some more pink.
We are just waiting for this one to increase enough. It is Small World Fire in the Hole X Stoke the Fire. Last fall we had 8 fans.
This seedling is The Bride of Dracula X Absolute Ripper. In 2022 it bloomed three times, but I don't believe it did that in 2023.
This is Back Draft X Tet. Rose F. Kennedy. It too is in the 'crush zone.'
The next two are diploids. This is Little Lemon Twist X Mary Ethel Anderson. The whole cross was 'mud city', but if you get enough 'mud', you get brown. We need to watch this one more. It was tall--43 inches-- with anywhere from 25 to 60 buds. I am thinking it must be a bud builder.
This is Rosalind X Mary Ethel Anderson.
This one is a small tet. It is School Bus X Merry Moppet.
That's finally all for me.Nancy
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last monthlast modified: last monthThese are seedlings whose high bud count so far is 13. In a year with more rain and fewer grubs, or in a sunnier location, I think they could do better. They are all seedlings I will keep if possible.
Biltmore Style X Cool Hand Luke - Reblooming dormant 26 inches tall
Lace Sampler X Victorian Lace - dormant with 6 inch bloom on 27 inch scapes.
$exy Samantha X Bubblegum Delicious #2 - Evergreen with 6.5 inch bloom on 27 inch scapes. Fast multiplier and terrific pod setter.
Integrated Logistics X Sugar Magnolia 1 - Dormant bitone with 6.5 inch bloom on 34 inch scapes. Extraordinary color!
Carolina Paleface x Dearest Valentine - Dormant cream peach polychrome with 6 inch bloom on 27 inch scapes. Terrific multiplier.
It sometimes shows more of a peachy pink.
Grandma's Smile X Bubblegum Delicious is one of my favorite pink seedlings. It has a 6 inch bloom on 26 inch scapes and is a reliable rebloomer. This evergreen went from four fans last year to 11 fans right now. I should be able to get a nice clump shot of it this year.
Zuzu's Treasure X Dearest Valentine #1 - This dormant lavender usually has 12-14 buds and reliably reblooms.
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last monthlast modified: last monthThese have shown high bud counts in at least one season. They may have been hit by grubs at some point, or perhaps they just don't cope well with drought conditions.
Zuzu's Treasure X Dearest Valentine #2 - The first year this dormant bloomed it had 24 buds and 32 inch scapes. In the years since, the height has varied wildy and bud counts have been 12-13. It has never rebloomed that I recall. Excellent pod setter.
Dancing Flamingo X UF #2 - This semi-evergreen had 15 buds the first year it bloomed in 2021. Since then it's shown only 9-12 buds per scape. It multiplied much slower than its two sibs. It has four fans while the sibs have 8 and 10. It has a 7 inch bloom on 29 inch scapes.
Skin of My Teeth X Midnight Castle had 15 buds its first year to bloom in 2021. I know for a fact it was hit by grubs that fall. It didn't bloom in 2022, and last year bloomed on very short scapes with only 6-8 buds per scape.
Carolina Cool Down X Seedling - This semi-evergreen likely got hit by grubs for a couple of years. In 2022 it had one scape that was 34 inches tall with 18 buds. Other than that most scapes have had 10-13 buds with about 30 inch scapes over the years. It has lovely, clear lavender color that holds well in high heat.
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last monthThere are several good looking seedlings in this post.
Debra: I love that dormant red seedling and WHITE TOOTH x SKATER #4
Nan: ALL OF MY LOVE TO YOU x RANDY STEPHENS is really nice looking.
Brad: I love the rich color of BOMBAY SILK x VINTAGE WINE.
I lost the tag for this one but it is from seeds that I purchased from Ed Burton on the LA.
This one is a screamer. It is SOUTH SEAS x NEON FLAME. Not my usual color range to work with but this was a cross that I could not resist making.
This one is under evaluation: It is out of DESIRE OF NATIONS. I love the color of this one.
This is another seedling from seeds purchased from Ed Burton.
That is all from me.
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