2nd floor addition, cost per square foot
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2nd Story Addition: very rough cost estimates/opinions wanted :)
Comments (20)Before my (late) DH and I embarked on a large renovation/addition, we did the math to compare what the addition would approximately cost (x), then added that cost to the approx. value of our home (y), and priced out homes in our area for sale at approx. x+y. For us it was worth doing the addition rather than buying a different house, even though ours ended up over $200/sqf, probably closer to $300/sqf. For comparison homes in this area are about $1.5+M for new builds; homes for teardown between $400=600k in very rough approximations. Some things to factor in: the cost of a rental when you move out during construction, including the cost of switching utilities to the rental then back (it's not so much the cost as it is the hassle. For example, keeping my same email address with Comcast required almost an act of divine intervention, not to mention about 20 phone calls.) Also count on scope creep. We were victims of our own enthusiasm and I can't tell you how many times we said, "While we're at it, we might as well do...." That's how we ended up going from the kids wanting a dog and me saying "no dog until I get a mudroom", to a 1000+ sqf addition with gutted kitchen and 4 gutted bathrooms, plus a new garage and a new roof. World's most expensive dog. (But Hendrix is worth it. :) ) Finally, there are compromises you will make that no one has to make with a new build from scratch, and there will be surprises. (Like when they cut an opening for my new office window and found a vent pipe no one knew was there. Or when they broke the sewer line while digging the new foundation.) I guess this is a long way of advising you to have a good contingency budget. For us it was totally worth it and I'm so glad we did the addition. And you have something in your favor I didn't know about at the time... this forum! I often wonder whether my layout and kitchen would be different if I knew about this forum and the kitchens forum when we did our work....See MoreCost per square foot to jackhammer Travertine in 12 x 16 ft kitchen?
Comments (3)Thanks for the input. We built our home which is poured concrete floors and walls and totally understand the "on your knees " jobs. We have travertine in the entire interior of our house about 1500 square feet and over 2400 sq. feet of patios and courtyard outside. Other than a few areas which have pitted and were easily filled with Traverfill it looks great. The kitchen was a poor choice for travertine even with repeated sealing. The kitchen has french doors on opposite walls and gets major walk thru traffic. I cook and bake and serve to our outdoor dining room so there are regular spills and stains. I thought of putting a floating floor on top of the tile and just raise the threshold on both french doors. The threshold is already raised to prevent water from a tropical storm from entering the house. But the doorway to the inside living room would create a tripping hazard. The tool you used sounds like a hammer drill with a special blade. We have to use a hammer drill to even put a tapcon in the wall to hang a picture. I can barely lift it. Living on St. John has it's challenges and I will have to find a porcelain tile with a travertine look, Have it shipped in and then have the tile removed. It sounds like it could be done in a week if I have all the materials ready to go, including the laborers. We will have to put 4 x 8 sheets of plywood against the cabinets to prevent damage from the drill and tile removal. Sounds like I should have the tile jacked while my husband is away. I appreciate the advice. It just confirms what I imagined would be required to have a new floor. I attached a picture before we finished the house as the tile was completed....See MoreCost per square foot in expensive area?
Comments (6)i think it is helpful to know the cost of the trades. For example in my area it is: about $150 per outlet/light in electrical. I want to say plumbing is about $20/linear ft, plus about $150 per fixture (not including the cost of fixtures). Fixtures can be $50 or $1500. Concrete is about 90/yard so you can figure out the cost of your basement walls (maybe $6/sq ft fully installed). Flooring will be about 25/sq ft assuming about $5-$7/sq ft in tile cost. Wood (not good in basement) would be about $5 sq ft to install and $5/sq ft in materials cost. Walls are about $20/sq ft of drywall and framed wall ($6-8 /sq ft for framing, $4-8/sq ft for the drywall, drywall is on both sides). baseboards are about 1/ft to install, about 1/linear ft of materials. Paint is highly variable, but I have paid $400 labor for a single coat of paint in a typical 12x12 sized room. If they have to texture, prime and paint it can be more. We typically buy paint in the $80/gallon range. Doors seem to run about $300 for a nice solid core door and about $200 to install. You can get doors for a lot less. Door hardware is like a minimum of $25 per set, but the sky is the limit. a bathroom consists of walls, a door, tile flooring, electrical, plumbing, fixtures, countertops and cabinets (which are about $300-$500 per cabinet installed). Counters are about $80/sq ft, sinks are about $150 for a nice one. GC fee is about 25% but could be 35%. There are also stairs and HVAC which Im not sure about. These prices are for the run of the mill contractors that I have used. Which are mostly spanish speaking labor. I would imagine if you got true craftsman, the price would be 4X or higher. There are also additional costs like permits, cleanup, etc....See MoreCost per square foot to rebuild in San Francisco?
Comments (23)Michael Short, Insurance Agent South Bay Great questions and answers. Before this life I was in the Mechanical Contracting business large commercial. There are some great answers in the threads above. 1. Know why you are getting the insurance and what it is you are protecting ( for all lines, but for the sake of discussion keep on homes you live in although most people auto is their largest liability). 2. As you are doing now find out the rebuild price per sqft. in your area 3. All fires are not equal. Your home burns down you can take bids negotiate, prices remain what they are. All of the homes in your area burn down forget it. Like my dad used to say ... son the price of poker just went up, right before he would take all my money :). Not enough contractors to go around highest bid wins. 4.How much would a vacant lot or a burned down house sell for. In Willow Glen I saw a burned down home sell roughly $800k .... 5.Prices go up they don't go down especially in these times... sheets of plywood last year home depot 7-10 dollars each now 50-60 dollars!!! Your insurance agent should give you price/s on per sqft cost to rebuild In the end its your home and your decision. Your agents job is to give you the information to assist you If your looking to save money go with a high deductible and do the math 10k vs 20k ded. Remember you don't come out of pocket on your home owners insurance claim. Whatever the "approved claim" is they take that ded amount and pay you the difference. Like one person said know what you need to rebuild and know what you need to walk away with and not be sick to your stomach. New home owners that put down 1.5% may be in a much different situation then someone with 50-100% equity. Hope this helps You can shoot me an email if you have any questions. mshort@farmersagent.com...See Morebturner12
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